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Americano
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| elchrist wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | If they had a chance an Iraqian would shoot any American with thinking twice about it. So I say fuck it. |
If you woke up in the middle of the night only to find a burglar* in your home armed with a gun, would you not shoot him?
* In this case the burglar is the USA. |
If the burglar was there to get rid of my asshole landlord who has been killing and starving the tenants. I would let him shoot the fucken landlord. |
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Mars
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| Ame-ricano wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | If they had a chance an Iraqian would shoot any American with thinking twice about it. So I say fuck it. |
If you woke up in the middle of the night only to find a burglar* in your home armed with a gun, would you not shoot him?
* In this case the burglar is the USA. |
If the burglar was there to get rid of my asshole landlord who has been killing and starving the tenants. I would let him shoot the fucken landlord. |
Ya calmate, Pinche GI Joe. |
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bemisnorris
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| bemisnorris wrote: | I think this statement by Howard Dean puts Saddam Hussein's capture in proper perspective:
"...I do not think that it makes America's homeland safer, and we do need to make sure that we focus and continue to focus on stopping terror and stopping al Qaeda, because al Qaeda is the real danger and focus for the United States of America."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/16/elec04.prez.dems.iraq/index.html
As does this article from The Philadelphia Enquirer:
The war on terror toppled a figurehead yesterday, not a mastermind or even a major leader. Although the capture gave the United States and the Bush administration a huge psychological victory in Iraq, the effort to defeat the forces of anti-American violence worldwide was mostly unaffected. |
I think the fact that the terror alert has been raised only a week after Saddam Hussein's capture proves that his capture is irrelevant to the security of the United States. |
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Americano
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| Posted: 24 Dec 2003 10:47 AM Post subject: |
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| bemisnorris wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | I think this statement by Howard Dean puts Saddam Hussein's capture in proper perspective:
"...I do not think that it makes America's homeland safer, and we do need to make sure that we focus and continue to focus on stopping terror and stopping al Qaeda, because al Qaeda is the real danger and focus for the United States of America."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/16/elec04.prez.dems.iraq/index.html
As does this article from The Philadelphia Enquirer:
The war on terror toppled a figurehead yesterday, not a mastermind or even a major leader. Although the capture gave the United States and the Bush administration a huge psychological victory in Iraq, the effort to defeat the forces of anti-American violence worldwide was mostly unaffected. |
I think the fact that the terror alert has been raised only a week after Saddam Hussein's capture proves that his capture is irrelevant to the security of the United States. |
It's like a street gang. You kill (capture) some from the other gang and soon that gang is going to avenge their death (capture). It's better to be safe than sorry. Besides, the US always gets out on high alert on Holidays, ever since 9/11. |
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bemisnorris
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| Posted: 24 Dec 2003 10:54 AM Post subject: |
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| Ame-ricano wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | I think this statement by Howard Dean puts Saddam Hussein's capture in proper perspective:
"...I do not think that it makes America's homeland safer, and we do need to make sure that we focus and continue to focus on stopping terror and stopping al Qaeda, because al Qaeda is the real danger and focus for the United States of America."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/16/elec04.prez.dems.iraq/index.html
As does this article from The Philadelphia Enquirer:
The war on terror toppled a figurehead yesterday, not a mastermind or even a major leader. Although the capture gave the United States and the Bush administration a huge psychological victory in Iraq, the effort to defeat the forces of anti-American violence worldwide was mostly unaffected. |
I think the fact that the terror alert has been raised only a week after Saddam Hussein's capture proves that his capture is irrelevant to the security of the United States. |
It's like a street gang. You kill (capture) some from the other gang and soon that gang is going to avenge their death (capture). It's better to be safe than sorry. Besides, the US always gets out on high alert on Holidays, ever since 9/11. |
Point is that Saddam Hussein was never an immediate threat to the United States and that his capture doesn't do shit for the "war on terror". |
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Americano
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| Posted: 24 Dec 2003 11:07 AM Post subject: |
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| bemisnorris wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | I think this statement by Howard Dean puts Saddam Hussein's capture in proper perspective:
"...I do not think that it makes America's homeland safer, and we do need to make sure that we focus and continue to focus on stopping terror and stopping al Qaeda, because al Qaeda is the real danger and focus for the United States of America."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/16/elec04.prez.dems.iraq/index.html
As does this article from The Philadelphia Enquirer:
The war on terror toppled a figurehead yesterday, not a mastermind or even a major leader. Although the capture gave the United States and the Bush administration a huge psychological victory in Iraq, the effort to defeat the forces of anti-American violence worldwide was mostly unaffected. |
I think the fact that the terror alert has been raised only a week after Saddam Hussein's capture proves that his capture is irrelevant to the security of the United States. |
It's like a street gang. You kill (capture) some from the other gang and soon that gang is going to avenge their death (capture). It's better to be safe than sorry. Besides, the US always gets out on high alert on Holidays, ever since 9/11. |
Point is that Saddam Hussein was never an immediate threat to the United States and that his capture doesn't do shit for the "war on terror". |
It does a lot to Bush's ego. |
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bemisnorris
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| Posted: 24 Dec 2003 11:20 AM Post subject: |
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| Ame-ricano wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | | bemisnorris wrote: | I think this statement by Howard Dean puts Saddam Hussein's capture in proper perspective:
"...I do not think that it makes America's homeland safer, and we do need to make sure that we focus and continue to focus on stopping terror and stopping al Qaeda, because al Qaeda is the real danger and focus for the United States of America."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/16/elec04.prez.dems.iraq/index.html
As does this article from The Philadelphia Enquirer:
The war on terror toppled a figurehead yesterday, not a mastermind or even a major leader. Although the capture gave the United States and the Bush administration a huge psychological victory in Iraq, the effort to defeat the forces of anti-American violence worldwide was mostly unaffected. |
I think the fact that the terror alert has been raised only a week after Saddam Hussein's capture proves that his capture is irrelevant to the security of the United States. |
It's like a street gang. You kill (capture) some from the other gang and soon that gang is going to avenge their death (capture). It's better to be safe than sorry. Besides, the US always gets out on high alert on Holidays, ever since 9/11. |
Point is that Saddam Hussein was never an immediate threat to the United States and that his capture doesn't do shit for the "war on terror". |
It does a lot to Bush's ego. |
Yeah...and that really makes us better off.  |
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Mars
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| Ame-ricano wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | If they had a chance an Iraqian would shoot any American with thinking twice about it. So I say fuck it. |
If you woke up in the middle of the night only to find a burglar* in your home armed with a gun, would you not shoot him?
* In this case the burglar is the USA. |
If the burglar was there to get rid of my asshole landlord who has been killing and starving the tenants. I would let him shoot the fucken landlord. |
What if when shooting your asshole landlord some shot ripped throught the wall and hit your sister and mother? Was it still worth it to get the landlord out? |
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Americano
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| Mars wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | Ame-ricano wrote: | | If they had a chance an Iraqian would shoot any American with thinking twice about it. So I say fuck it. |
If you woke up in the middle of the night only to find a burglar* in your home armed with a gun, would you not shoot him?
* In this case the burglar is the USA. |
If the burglar was there to get rid of my asshole landlord who has been killing and starving the tenants. I would let him shoot the fucken landlord. |
What if when shooting your asshole landlord some shot ripped throught the wall and hit your sister and mother? Was it still worth it to get the landlord out? |
That's Collateral Damage |
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