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bemisnorris
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| verbal wrote: | | As for Canseco another idiot and prick. Don't get me wrong 40-40 is awesome especially when you're the first player to ever do it, but I don't think he is HOF material. |
I agree that Canseco did not have a Hall of Fame Career, but I seriously doubt that the first 40-40 player will not make it in the Hall. |
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bemisnorris
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| verbal wrote: | | Though I prefer March Madness. |
I can no longer stand watching college sports. Collegiate football and basketball players nowadays go to college to intentionally play one or two years and then move on to the pros, so you don't see very many teams that stay good for more than a few years.
The fact that only a select few conferences qualify for the BCS (I call it the Bull Crap Shit) system completely ruined college football for me. |
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elchrist
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| verbal wrote: | What's getting paid have to do with integrity? You can still do both. You play by the rules, you work hard, and you don't cheat. That's integrity. What happens off the field is besides the point.
The NBA is a horrible league. Too many thugs with too much cash. They all know that the season sucks and they only start playing in the playoffs. Look at R.Horry. Still, there are high price players that play hard regardless if the league wants a certain matchup. T.Duncam, K.G., Kobe, Tracy, and those are the superstars. I hate the fact that the league pushes certain teams and doesn't call traveling, but I like sports and I will continue to watch the finals. Though I prefer March Madness. If I really cared about all the right calls and fundamentals then I would watch the WNBA, and trust me I will never watch that crap.
A lot of players still respect the history of the game. Roger Clemens just won 300 games and before each start he goes out and kisses/rubs Babe Ruth's plaque out in center field. So you're saying that because Roger Clemens gets paid he has no integrity? Is it his fault that the game he is good at he can make a profitable living off. Does he make the salaries? Does he tell people to go to games and purchase $1500 tickets. That's how much tickets were going for when he picthed against the Cubs.
Yes there are players like Cansecon, Bell, who are ass holes and only play for the money. I hate players like E.James (colts) who said every time he crosses the goal line all he thinks about are dollar signs. Do players play way too many years at the end of the career for just money. Yes, but I still believe there are some good players out there.
A.Rod left the Mariners to play in a last place team. Obviously he left for the money, but wouldn't you. 252 million in 10 years. Just tell me right now that you would have stayed with the Mariners. That's right you would have taken the cash. What did A.Rod do after he got that money, he only put up MVP numbers. They gave it to Tejada, but A.Rods numbers were better. So he has no integrity for the game because he plays for cash. I say he plays 110%, if he didn't his numbers would show.
Look at Tony Gwynn. He could have left and received the big pay check, but he didn't. Look at Cal Ripken. Are you saying that Lou Gerrigh had no integrity. What about Ronnie Lott. Are you willing to go up to him and say that he has no integrity for the game? Hey Ronnie you have no integrity because you play for money. Yeah fuckin right. This man decided to amputate his pinky in order to play the remainder of the season.
Games are made to be fun, but more importantly they are made for competition. In games you have winners and losers. One team wins the championship and all other teams are losers. That simple. |
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| Posted: 02 Jul 2003 08:27 AM Post subject: |
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| Wow, I guess I don't care enought to write a novel abou this thread. Or any thread. |
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verbal
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| Posted: 02 Jul 2003 09:21 AM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | | verbal wrote: | What's getting paid have to do with integrity? You can still do both. You play by the rules, you work hard, and you don't cheat. That's integrity. What happens off the field is besides the point.
The NBA is a horrible league. Too many thugs with too much cash. They all know that the season sucks and they only start playing in the playoffs. Look at R.Horry. Still, there are high price players that play hard regardless if the league wants a certain matchup. T.Duncam, K.G., Kobe, Tracy, and those are the superstars. I hate the fact that the league pushes certain teams and doesn't call traveling, but I like sports and I will continue to watch the finals. Though I prefer March Madness. If I really cared about all the right calls and fundamentals then I would watch the WNBA, and trust me I will never watch that crap.
A lot of players still respect the history of the game. Roger Clemens just won 300 games and before each start he goes out and kisses/rubs Babe Ruth's plaque out in center field. So you're saying that because Roger Clemens gets paid he has no integrity? Is it his fault that the game he is good at he can make a profitable living off. Does he make the salaries? Does he tell people to go to games and purchase $1500 tickets. That's how much tickets were going for when he picthed against the Cubs.
Yes there are players like Cansecon, Bell, who are ass holes and only play for the money. I hate players like E.James (colts) who said every time he crosses the goal line all he thinks about are dollar signs. Do players play way too many years at the end of the career for just money. Yes, but I still believe there are some good players out there.
A.Rod left the Mariners to play in a last place team. Obviously he left for the money, but wouldn't you. 252 million in 10 years. Just tell me right now that you would have stayed with the Mariners. That's right you would have taken the cash. What did A.Rod do after he got that money, he only put up MVP numbers. They gave it to Tejada, but A.Rods numbers were better. So he has no integrity for the game because he plays for cash. I say he plays 110%, if he didn't his numbers would show.
Look at Tony Gwynn. He could have left and received the big pay check, but he didn't. Look at Cal Ripken. Are you saying that Lou Gerrigh had no integrity. What about Ronnie Lott. Are you willing to go up to him and say that he has no integrity for the game? Hey Ronnie you have no integrity because you play for money. Yeah fuckin right. This man decided to amputate his pinky in order to play the remainder of the season.
Games are made to be fun, but more importantly they are made for competition. In games you have winners and losers. One team wins the championship and all other teams are losers. That simple. |
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| bemisnorris wrote: | | verbal wrote: | | Though I prefer March Madness. |
I can no longer stand watching college sports. Collegiate football and basketball players nowadays go to college to intentionally play one or two years and then move on to the pros, so you don't see very many teams that stay good for more than a few years.
The fact that only a select few conferences qualify for the BCS (I call it the Bull Crap Shit) system completely ruined college football for me. |
In college football one has to wait 3 years in order to become draft eligible. Most wait all 4 years. I would say that less than 10% of the Juniors enter the draft. The only player to jump after his sophmore season was M.Vick. Stupid Chargers.
As for the BCS its crap, but its better than the old system. AP writers selecting the National Champion was crap. So far the BCS has been lucky in the sense that only two teams have been undefeated at the end of the season. Thus, the BCS has worked. I really don't care about who won the Liberty Bowl. Ok I lied because usually I have some action on Bowl games.
As for College Basketball the NCAA tournament is awesome. You have small schools with little programs beating out Stanford or UNC. The Toreros (USD) beat out Gonzaga because they had like 6 senior s on the squad. Only in the major programs do you see players leaving way early. C.Anthony left after one season, but it was clear that he was that good already. Hey these athletes are pretty dumb. If they are sophmores and leave early chances are that they won't even get drafted or even make the team. A lot of second rounders don't stay around for more than a year.
March Madness is the best thing in sports. 65 teams make the tournament and only comes out the winner. Only once have I seen some 'loss of integrity" in Final Four. Duke v UNLV. There is no way that UNLV could have lost that game. Still over the years there have been many cinderella stories and awesome games. What they do after the tournament (leave college) does not hinder the college game. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 02 Jul 2003 09:34 AM Post subject: |
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| verbal wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | verbal wrote: | | [verbal's sports essay] |
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2-5 JL. |
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verbal
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| revramrod wrote: | You filthy motherfuckers!!!
Some of you ignore the majority of the threads in the forums, or make a habit of firing off non sequiturs when you do get around to posting in them, and here you are, writing essays and shit about sports.
Bastards. |
I don't ignore the majority of the threads, but I just don't have a passionate take about a fat black lady that has allegedly rolled over on her two kids.
I have even started some thread that get no love. I'm involved. I disappear from time to time, but those are called vacations. |
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revramrod
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| verbal wrote: | | I don't ignore the majority of the threads, but I just don't have a passionate take about a fat black lady that has allegedly rolled over on her two kids. |
Man, you need to get your priorities straight. Nothing tops a fat black lady rolling over on her two kids. Unless of course, she eats them afterward.
Edit: Goddamn typos.
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verbal
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| elchrist wrote: | | verbal wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | verbal wrote: | | [verbal's sports essay] |
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That was funny to watch. I think he cried every time. We're a bunch of bastards. |
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