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spic-ole
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| Mars wrote: | | they'd rather have 3 shitty stereos than 1 good one |
No shit. I know some people from mex that if they see a Magnavox 35 inch t.v. for 30 dollars, and if they see a Fujimasakivox (same size t.v.) for $28.99. They will buy the Fujimasakivox.
I can't tell you how many people from mex have tools that say block & ducker, and they keep buying these tools every 3 months because they stop working and they continue to buy them, instead of making one good investment on a high quality tool that will last years. |
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watts
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| revramrod wrote: | | Well moderated, corporate-owned stores and franchises would be a great addition to Calexico. |
Very true, but could the economic market in Calexico support these types of stores? I'm sure everybody would love a Starbucks or Peets Coffee right in the middle of downtown or even a good clothing retailer but would people buy their goods there?
I think people would shop there but you don't want to have Calexico saturated with Gaps, Hot Topics, or Mr. Rags stores. |
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revramrod
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 02:12 PM Post subject: |
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| watts wrote: | | Very true, but could the economic market in Calexico support these types of stores? I'm sure everybody would love a Starbucks or Peets Coffee right in the middle of downtown or even a good clothing retailer but would people buy their goods there? |
While it's improbable that Calexico's economic base could support these businesses, the influx of fresa shoppers probably would. They could provide the cash flow needed to keep these stores in business, thus allowing them to continue serving the local shopper.
(Wishful thinking.)
| watts wrote: | | I think people would shop there but you don't want to have Calexico saturated with Gaps, Hot Topics, or Mr. Rags stores. |
Unlikely. Even at its best, the local economy would probably never be viable enough to encourage outside retailers to saturate the market. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 02:28 PM Post subject: |
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| revramrod wrote: | | While it's improbable that Calexico's economic base could support these businesses, the influx of fresa shoppers probably would. They could provide the cash flow needed to keep these stores in business, thus allowing them to continue serving the local shopper. |
I'm not too sure about the fresas sustaining a local market with "high-end" products and services. I remember there used to be Benetton and Diesel shops in Plaza Cachania and they had to close down. Benetton, at least in the early 90s, was a major player in fresa and new wave fashions. Diesel was just starting up, so maybe it didn't "catch on" as quickly here.
I know these are just clothing retailers, but it makes me believe that the same outcome would be produced if other "high-end" retailers would hit the city.
Now if a local Calecia.com Shop would open up, that'd be a completely different story. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 02:37 PM Post subject: |
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| watts wrote: | | I'm sure everybody would love a Starbucks or Peets Coffee right in the middle of downtown... |
Although I don't believe there's ever been a coffee shop franchise in Calexico, there have been some attempts to do something similar by locals. I recall Cafe Highway 98, once located where Hungry Howie's Pizza now is, a few years back. The owner(s) seemed to have done a pretty good job with the environment and selection of drinks/products, but it completely bombed.
I went a few times and it was good. I don't know the exact reason why it closed down... maybe the prices were to high for locals or maybe it was that they didn't go with the Internet cafe addition like they had planned.
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revramrod
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 03:46 PM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | | I'm not too sure about the fresas sustaining a local market with "high-end" products and services. I remember there used to be Benetton and Diesel shops in Plaza Cachania and they had to close down. Benetton, at least in the early 90s, was a major player in fresa and new wave fashions. Diesel was just starting up, so maybe it didn't "catch on" as quickly here. |
Yes, but these are different times and wanton consumerism runs rampant, even here in the Imperial and Mexicali valleys. At the rate I've seen these people consume, I'm sure it would be profitable.
Plus, you're talking about niche stores, dedicated to selling one brand or line of product alone. If you slapped a Best Buy or Macy's (or Gap even, since they always seem to be the exception to the rule) down here, they would draw customers. Look to Toys R Us' sales as an example. Everyone said a large toy/kids store like that wouldn't survive.
Though, maybe it's not a particular store we should be focusing on. Maybe we should be delving deeper into the new shopping mall that's slated for the valley. |
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revramrod
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 03:47 PM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | | maybe it was that they didn't go with the Internet cafe addition like they had planned. |
That was the final nail in the coffin.  |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 06:25 PM Post subject: |
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| revramrod wrote: | | Look to Toys R Us' sales as an example. Everyone said a large toy/kids store like that wouldn't survive. |
Everyone, including the store manager. An ex-employee had informed me that during a staff meeting the store manager stated that the Calexico store's life expectancy was a maximum of 2 years. This was supposedly straight from the corporate offices and was due to the previous year's sales.
Well to this very day the store is still open for business. |
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revramrod
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 06:46 PM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | | revramrod wrote: | | Look to Toys R Us' sales as an example. Everyone said a large toy/kids store like that wouldn't survive. |
Everyone, including the store manager. An ex-employee had informed me that during a staff meeting the store manager stated that the Calexico store's life expectancy was a maximum of 2 years. This was supposedly straight from the corporate offices and was due to the previous year's sales.
Well to this very day the store is still open for business. |
Well, that changes everything as far as Toys R Us is concerned.
It was bad logic on my part to use a toy store as an example, but realistically, what is happening at the Toys R Us in Calexico is not really indicative of whether or not big-chain stores can survive down here. Toys R Us is, after all, a perfect example of niche sales.
I still believe my other points are valid. |
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spic-ole
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| Posted: 07 Feb 2003 07:41 PM Post subject: |
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[quote="elchrist"] | watts wrote: | | I recall Cafe Highway 98, once located where Hungry Howie's Pizza now is, a few years back. The owner(s) seemed to have done a pretty good job with the environment and selection of drinks/products, but it completely bombed. |
The selection of coffee was good, and the coffee itself was good. As for the prices, they weren't too high, I could afford to go there when I was in High School. As for the rest of the town, if they could afford to drive around in brand new Escalades, Suburbans, F-150's, etc, they could certainly afford to drop 2-3 bucks for a coffee.
The location itself was bad. It was too far off in one part of the city, and the parking sucked. |
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