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elchrist
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 Posted: 18 Jun 2008 07:37 PM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | locoinclx wrote: | | Plus I can guarantee that the city manager and City Council get the same bonuses and those bonuses most likely will not be affected... |
What types of bonuses do city employees get?
I thought civil servants didn't get bonuses since they are paid with tax dollars. |
bonuses like the social security thing... Mr devil's advocate... |
Somebody's gotta ask.
Otherwise your pops might be getting a nice little bonus EOM that we don't about and you end up with a brand spanking new iPhone 3G. We just can't have that, especially when I'm still stuck with a StarTac. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 07:03 AM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: |
Somebody's gotta ask.
Otherwise your pops might be getting a nice little bonus EOM that we don't about and you end up with a brand spanking new iPhone 3G. We just can't have that, especially when I'm still stuck with a StarTac. |
Haha, the only reason why I'm not getting an iphone is cause everyone complains about the service in Calecia...
Plus my dad is not in the high end of the totem pole when it comes to city workers... So my family is not lucky enough to be swimming in money, unlike some in the hefferand, city council and school district are... |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 07:56 AM Post subject: |
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How does this new budget affect the "beautification" of downtown Calexico?
Can we expect the promenade idea for 1st and 2nd Street to be scrapped as well? If they are raising the parking meter hourly rate from 25 cents to 50 cents and enforcing the meters on Sundays as well as holidays, how can we expect the city to move forward with the promenade if this is one way they plan to restore Calexico's finances? |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 08:49 AM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | How does this new budget affect the "beautification" of downtown Calexico?
Can we expect the promenade idea for 1st and 2nd Street to be scrapped as well? If they are raising the parking meter hourly rate from 25 cents to 50 cents and enforcing the meters on Sundays as well as holidays, how can we expect the city to move forward with the promenade if this is one way they plan to restore Calexico's finances? |
I personally don't care for the 1st street promenade... It is my opinion that the reason why Calexico has not emerged into being the most prominent city(business wise) in the county is because everyone just dwells and dwells in downtown Calexico. Look at what is happening in EC. The minute they stopped dwelling on their downtown they got a huge mall complex, bowling alley, in-n-out and many more new businesses...
Just Cause Calexico wants to accommodate the regular joe shmoe that crosses the border, should not mean that they should make that the sole purpose of Calexico.
Plus its not like they are going to make a promenade like the 3rd street promenade in Santa Monica or the Gas Lamp Quarter in San Diego...
as for the parking meter thing, I feel that they should charge more for parking @ Downtown Calexico. If other Cities across the country are paying 25 cents for 12 minutes, I think the people in Calexico will be willing to pay 50 cents for two hours. The one thing i wouldn't agree would be to charge on Sunday's and holidays... Even the most Nazi cities don't charge on those days...(except Pasadena, those Nazi bastards!) |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 09:31 AM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | How does this new budget affect the "beautification" of downtown Calexico?
Can we expect the promenade idea for 1st and 2nd Street to be scrapped as well? If they are raising the parking meter hourly rate from 25 cents to 50 cents and enforcing the meters on Sundays as well as holidays, how can we expect the city to move forward with the promenade if this is one way they plan to restore Calexico's finances? |
I personally don't care for the 1st street promenade... It is my opinion that the reason why Calexico has not emerged into being the most prominent city(business wise) in the county is because everyone just dwells and dwells in downtown Calexico. Look at what is happening in EC. The minute they stopped dwelling on their downtown they got a huge mall complex, bowling alley, in-n-out and many more new businesses... |
You don't live in Calexico, so that's why you don't care.
There's nothing wrong with using some city funds to make downtown Calexico a nicer place. It's also not like everyone at the city is only thinking about downtown. I'm pretty sure there are attempts to bring in other biz within city limits. The Mega Park (w/ Target), outlet stores by the airport and the casino are just a few examples.
You gotta give some credit to city staff for working on getting this done. They may not be the most efficient and effective people on the planet, but things are getting done.
| locoinclx wrote: | Just Cause Calexico wants to accommodate the regular joe shmoe that crosses the border, should not mean that they should make that the sole purpose of Calexico.
Plus its not like they are going to make a promenade like the 3rd street promenade in Santa Monica or the Gas Lamp Quarter in San Diego... |
That regular "joe schmoe" that comes from Mexicali helps keep around 100 businesses alive downtown. If you don't accommodate them, downtown becomes ghosttown. Plus, many Calecianos still go downtown to buy their wares.
Of course we're not expecting the Gaslamp District or 3rd Street Promenade. We don't have thousands of tourists coming here to sustain that type of environment, so we'll just settle for some nicer buildings and landscaping.
| locoinclx wrote: | | as for the parking meter thing, I feel that they should charge more for parking @ Downtown Calexico. If other Cities across the country are paying 25 cents for 12 minutes, I think the people in Calexico will be willing to pay 50 cents for two hours. The one thing i wouldn't agree would be to charge on Sunday's and holidays... Even the most Nazi cities don't charge on those days...(except Pasadena, those Nazi bastards!) |
Yeah, it is about time they charged more for parking. 25 cents for 1 hour is the same price from the 70s. 50 cents is still cheap, but a good price to be at. Calexico isn't Beverly Hills.
Charging for Sundays and holidays for parking is desperate and pathetic. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 10:23 AM Post subject: |
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| elchrist wrote: | | You don't live in Calexico, so that's why you don't care. |
Why do I feel like my comments are always unwelcome here... maybe I should go somewhere else to give my two cents....
| elchrist wrote: | There's nothing wrong with using some city funds to make downtown Calexico a nicer place. It's also not like everyone at the city is only thinking about downtown. I'm pretty sure there are attempts to bring in other biz within city limits. The Mega Park (w/ Target), outlet stores by the airport and the casino are just a few examples.
You gotta give some credit to city staff for working on getting this done. They may not be the most efficient and effective people on the planet, but things are getting done. |
Downtown Calexico has been beautified for the past 20 years, almost every 5 years. But aside from that, what has Calexico done?
1. The city blew up the chance to increase its population by not annexing the CM Ranch. They felt that CM Ranch should add all the utilities that cities usually do. CM Ranch, either way will be built, but now the one getting all that tax income will be the County instead of the city.
2. The Mega Park is the only actual project that is going ahead at this point. Here are two things that people don’t realize about that project. One the Target will be a regular target, not a Super Target. Two, the “Mega” part about the project will be created 10 years after the creation of Target and Robinsons Ford. Therefore the only thing on the pipeline for that area is Target and some other little stores that will be built around it.
3. The Casino will not be built until it goes through the state and it has a long battle since the Quechan believe that they are getting ripped off. (don’t know why the city doesn’t see that they are too getting ripped off, but that’s another matter) Therefore the Casino has at least another 5 years to go. The outlets built around the Casino will be built on Indian grounds, therefore they will not be subject to city tax and will not be built until or after the casino is built.
There are many more things that we can continue to talk about how Calexico has “numerous” projects in the pipeline, but only one or two will become a reality within 5 years.
Within those five years, we will see two or more projects get sped through for the “beautification” of downtown Calexico. But like you said, there’s a lot of pandering in the city of Calexico for downtown projects not to be bumped onto utmost priority every single time they are brought forth.
| elchrist wrote: | | Calexico isn't Beverly Hills. |
Wasn't talking about Beverly Hills, and if you should know, Beverly Hills has very cheap meter parking… Its only $1 for every hour...
One last thing, I always felt that you El Christ were very neutral about people’s opinions, and never used cheap shots as your response.
Today, you have proven me wrong… |
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chuco boy
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 10:40 AM Post subject: Response to Locoincalx |
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EL CHRIST is very knowledgeable about these issues and he doesn't issue vague comments that are not accurate
CM RANCH- Where is the demand for the housing?
FACT: We are in a recession and we don't need new houses
TARGET- Ain't going to happen. Where is the building permit?
A LOT OF BS just to justify staff salaries and keep the land owner happy.
SHOW ME THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE TARGET STORE?
EL CHRIST will be right again...Talk is cheap. Show facts. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 10:44 AM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | | Why do I feel like my comments are always unwelcome here... maybe I should go somewhere else to give my two cents.... |
Your comments are always welcome on here. Everyone has their own opinion, right? And when that's the case, you always get some type of debate going on.
You should know by now that you gotta be thick skinned on Calecia.com otherwise you won't survive very long.
| locoinclx wrote: | | Downtown Calexico has been beautified for the past 20 years, almost every 5 years. But aside from that, what has Calexico done? |
The beautification of downtown shouldn't be some change that everyone will regret in 5 years. Maybe that's what has been happening in the past where you get some architect/designer who wants to try out the latest trends and then go the way of Cross Colour pants.
Just look at the architecture where Big Lots and Dollar Tree are at. WTF were they thinking?
| locoinclx wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | | Calexico isn't Beverly Hills. |
Wasn't talking about Beverly Hills, and if you should know, Beverly Hills has very cheap meter parking… Its only $1 for every hour... |
Yeah, but how much is valet parking?
No, but seriously. It was a figure of speech in the sense that people already going downtown are looking for mega bargains and charging a lot for parking is going to hurt the shopper. Just like every time Las Palmas raises their entrance fee, it stings.
| locoinclx wrote: | One last thing, I always felt that you El Christ were very neutral about people’s opinions, and never used cheap shots as your response.
Today, you have proven me wrong… |
Come on, dude. I'm entitled to have a little fun, ain't I?
Plus I don't know what I said that is considered a cheap shot. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 19 Jun 2008 11:07 AM Post subject: |
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Its all fine and dandy that you want it to be fun and games and all that thick skin crap... but after 3 years of having the same people question my motives just because I don't live in Calexico takes a toll. I guess I expected more from you, like an actual discussion...
plus if you where trying to be funny you would have done one of these: 
As for Downtown Calexico, don't worry about it... I'm pretty sure that Ouzan and Castro will take care of that.
Ohh and come on, where in Calexico do you get Valet Parking... don't waste my time discussing things that don't exists. Plus if Calexico was really looking at the interest of its people, they would have already created parking structures and done the whole 1 hour free with validation type of thing...
But since the issue is parking meters, please stick to parking meters...
Las palmas entry fees have nothing to do with it.... plus if you're that cheap to pay the fee for las palmas, then stick to santo tomas. |
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whitebread
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| Both of you are off topic already. The future plans for all these projects are not even close enough to even be considered a projection to impact the fiscal state of Calexico. This should be in another thread somewhere else. Like that other thread that says "whats getting built in Calexico?" I think we had one of those already, I'm not sure. But the budget was fixed way to easily, not very many people/cities can pull 3 Million out a hat, and say "hey, everything is all good now baby" let's go on with business as usual. These items should've been addressed BEFORE!!!! City Manager should be able to look at what programs the city is paying for, what their purpose is? and what benefit do they provide the city to justify their cost? That's what got looked at now, but should be done every year. I just hope that now the budget is balanced they don't consider the new Non-Profit asking for $200k for the purpose of promoting economic development again. So who is ready to go to the New Bowling Alley in EL CENTRO with me? Have a beer and gripe about how this could've been in Calexico. Let the Arts in Public Places fee handle what Calexico "should" look like. |
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