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Does it matter if a councilman doesn't speak English?
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PostPosted: 27 May 2008 04:13 PM    Post subject: Does it matter if a councilman doesn't speak English? Reply with quote

Some of us in the past (or is it just me?) have pointed out that Luis Castro isn't fluent in English and there is some doubt as to how much he actually knows. Recently the IV Press gave their opinion that a Spanish-only speaking councilman is not a good idea for the City of Calexico.

Apparently a lot of voters in Calexico think it's fine that a politician doesn't speak English as he almost beat out David Ouzan during that last city council election back in 2004. If the people want him, then no problem, but should he have made the effort to get a good grasp of the English language before taking a dive into the political arena?
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PostPosted: 27 May 2008 04:24 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

(cough) 2006 (cough)!!
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PostPosted: 27 May 2008 05:03 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

god....how more mexican can calexico get? people should know english if you are going to live in this country..especially if you want to run for a political seat. How will he communicate with white folks during city seminars and meetings???...gheto!!!!

Calexico will never change.
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PostPosted: 27 May 2008 08:42 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard arguments on both sides. I don't know the guy, but would we rather have someone who doesn't speak english but will serve the community well, or someone who speaks english well and doesn't deliver on his campaign promises? If that's the case than what good is it to speak english?
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PostPosted: 27 May 2008 09:17 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

heck yeah it matters...we are living the freaking united states where the native language is english...i myself might not be 100% fluent but i feel that if i want to live in this country i need to speak it's native language.
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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 06:34 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soulman wrote:
I've heard arguments on both sides. I don't know the guy, but would we rather have someone who doesn't speak english but will serve the community well, or someone who speaks english well and doesn't deliver on his campaign promises? If that's the case than what good is it to speak english?



What are Castro's campaign promises?? Anybody??
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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 07:16 AM    Post subject: ESL Reply with quote

I know a lot of bright and capable people who have trouble communicating verbally in English but they excel in many professions.

Perhaps we should have a literacy test for all city personnel including elected officials. Then we can post the test scores for the public to review.
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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 10:41 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

alexirie wrote:
god....how more mexican can calexico get? people should know english if you are going to live in this country..


They don't have to, therefore they don't need to. But if they don't want to be a burden to others, then they need to learn English.

Just like if we were in Mexicali, we would have to know Spanish otherwise we'd get the Mex price.

alexirie wrote:
especially if you want to run for a political seat. How will he communicate with white folks during city seminars and meetings???...gheto!!!!


Now this is where you need to learn to read, write and speak English. You just can't be taken seriously by everyone if you only speak Spanish.

You would have thought that after losing in 2006 (thanks whitebread), he'd have taken up some English night classes or bought himself a copy of Rosetta Stone so he could not be at a disadvantage in 2008. It's clear since he didn't participate in the SDSU political forum that he is not confident enough to speak English in public.

alexirie wrote:
Calexico will never change.


It will, just not as quickly as it can.
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PostPosted: 28 May 2008 10:49 AM    Post subject: Re: ESL Reply with quote

chuco boy wrote:
I know a lot of bright and capable people who have trouble communicating verbally in English but they excel in many professions.


Yeah, I've seen a lot of this in interviews, but when a job requirement is to be fluent in English, then they are not hireable. It saddens me to see them struggle, but it's a requirement to be able to say, "Thank you, come again" and "Here's your change" as a clerk inside of quickie mart in America.

chuco boy wrote:
Perhaps we should have a literacy test for all city personnel including elected officials. Then we can post the test scores for the public to review.


How about the Wonderlic Test? Then we can all mock our city employees like we did with Vince Young.
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PostPosted: 30 May 2008 05:07 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Castro is not the first nor the last of the my-face-on-a-billboard candidate, what solar system do you live in? What are his views on city issues, such as the hospital; the infrastucture; the economy; border crossing; public safety; the city budget; HUD; as mr mains says, parks for our kids; what we really know is that we don't know a freakn thing about what this cat knows. Have you ever heard him speak publically? NO. Have you heard him speak English? No. What is his political agenda? I haven't the faintest idea, do you? If he wins then he will have baffled us--the voters with BS, dazzled us with his quiet brilliance, and bewildered us with purpose, who's, I don't know. Later, I gotta go feed the cows.
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