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RandR
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PostPosted: 27 Mar 2008 02:04 PM    Post subject: Be My Guitar Hero Reply with quote

I have casually played the guitar off and on (mostly off) for about 12 years. I'm not very good by any measure, but I started playing again recently for my 5 month old daughter. She loves it, I mean really loves. I've been playing a cheap guitar I bought for $30 from that old dude behind Dominoes in CLX so my question is this, what is a good brand of acoustic guitar? I don't want one of those American folk guitars that use metal strings and are the size of a boat. I want a good acoustic guitar that is designed for nylon strings. Help me! (Oh, I'd also love to know what brand is good for nylon strings. I bought some for fifteen bucks at Clark Baker a couple of weeks ago and three strings broke already)
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PostPosted: 27 Mar 2008 09:33 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you're looking for is a classical guitar.

America doesn't make very good classical guitars, not really our forte. What America does do, is import good classical guitars and sell them for anywhere from 3 to 10 times the amount they cost where they're made.

I don't know a whole lot about classicals, but I was once told that the best are Spanish Guitars. Country, not the brand.

If you're looking for a good classical that won't cost you a ridiculous amount of money, I would go to Mexicali. I've always heard that place Sanchez (in front of Cachanilla) has good guitars, at good prices. Only been there once, and only for a few minutes.

Your other option would be buying a good acoustic and putting nylon strings on it, which sounds terrible by the way.

You can also try Musicians Friend. I looked at their web-site a few minutes ago, and some of those go into the thousands. I'm sure that in Mex you'll pay about 200-300 for something really good. At Musicians Friend, you'll probably pay at least 300 for something decent.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 05:45 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about that last post. You can find a decent quality classical guitar just about anywhere. If you're lucky, there's a nylon-stringed, full-size Yamaha classical guitar available at Costco every so often. It's $99 and sounds as good as any $300 classical you can pull off the wall at Guitar Center.
As a matter of fact, it's easier to find a good quality nylon/classical than it is to find a good quality steel-stringed folk guitar or an electric.
Yamaha makes excellent quality acoustic guitars, but I don't think people realize it. I have the 2-year-old nylon but I also have a 35-year-old Yamaha steel string that has aged so well (minus nut problems that can be fixed professionally) that a lot of my friends borrow it to record because it sounds so mellow and balanced.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 05:49 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing about the previous post (not to talk shit or anything), you cannot CANNOT just go and put nylons on a steel string guitar. Not only will they sound bad, but they'll fuck up the guitar. Nylons and steels are built to withstand different tensions, and when you start messing around with them without knowing what you're doing, you'll warp or bend the neck. A bent neck guitar is useless, and you might as well throw it away.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 12:12 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackmountain74 wrote:
One more thing about the previous post (not to talk shit or anything), you cannot CANNOT just go and put nylons on a steel string guitar. Not only will they sound bad, but they'll fuck up the guitar. Nylons and steels are built to withstand different tensions, and when you start messing around with them without knowing what you're doing, you'll warp or bend the neck. A bent neck guitar is useless, and you might as well throw it away.


Yeah, one more thing about the previous post, I thought he recommended not putting nylon strings on an acoustic. I guess he did recommend it. Man, that guy is an idiot. Dumb spicole.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 01:56 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackmountain74 wrote:
I don't know about that last post. You can find a decent quality classical guitar just about anywhere. If you're lucky, there's a nylon-stringed, full-size Yamaha classical guitar available at Costco every so often. It's $99 and sounds as good as any $300 classical you can pull off the wall at Guitar Center.
As a matter of fact, it's easier to find a good quality nylon/classical than it is to find a good quality steel-stringed folk guitar or an electric.
Yamaha makes excellent quality acoustic guitars, but I don't think people realize it. I have the 2-year-old nylon but I also have a 35-year-old Yamaha steel string that has aged so well (minus nut problems that can be fixed professionally) that a lot of my friends borrow it to record because it sounds so mellow and balanced.


I thought I made it clear I knew very little about classicals. I guess not. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT CLASSICALS.

I would take blackmountain74's word for it. His "I'm trying not to be condescending post" while being condescending post brims with confidence. Seriously though, he probably is more credible than I am, because, and I don't know if I've mentioned it or not, but I know very little about classicals.

Sound is one thing on a guitar. A lot of things can affect the sound. The quality of the guitar, guitar strings, the guy playing the guitar... Well, I guess it's not a lot of things. But still, there are factors. I would go more with a combination of comfort/sound. It doesn't matter how great the sound of a guitar is, if you're not comfortable with it, you won't enjoy playing it. Some guitars (especially cheaper guitars) feel horrible. I'll give you an example, I once bought a Danelectro U10. I loved the way the guitar looked, everyone agreed it had a great sound, but the feel was horrible. I hated the feel of the guitar, so I never played it. It was probably the worst guitar I've ever played. I bought it without ever trying it out, because it was a great deal. I regretted that purchase.

As far as Yamaha goes. They do tend to be a pretty decent brand. They are kind of like the equate of musical instruments (and anything else they can get their hands on). You're not going to get anything great, but as long as you're just getting it to have fun with it, you should be fine.

I personally have never played a Yamaha that I liked, or would consider owning, no matter how cheap it was (well maybe if it was like 10 bucks) , and no, I don't own gibsons or martins. I don't own very expensive equipment at all. Nowadays, I do make sure that I try a guitar out first to make sure that I am comfortable with it before buying it. RandR, you should probably go and try it out. If it feels good enough, pick it up. 100 bucks is a great deal on a guitar.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 01:58 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all a bunch of guitar zeros. You need to start playing a real stringed instrument like the sitar or harp.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 02:32 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty funny, Spic-ole. I seriously wasn't trying to be an ass, sorry of it came off that way. I guess I misread the part about the nylons. No biggie.
I agree with you that Yamaha doesn't do anything great, just good. I must have got lucky with that old guitar (it was willed to me by an aunt who died). My first electric bass was a Yamaha, and it was kind of sorry.
RandR, none of us are probably authorities, we just know what we like. And like most amatuer players, we're an opinionated lot.
For me, I like cheap stuff and good stuff. I've got a Gibson Les Paul that I love, but I play my $199 Epiphone Dot Studio just as often.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 02:40 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

spic-ole wrote:
blackmountain74 wrote:
I don't know about that last post. You can find a decent quality classical guitar just about anywhere. If you're lucky, there's a nylon-stringed, full-size Yamaha classical guitar available at Costco every so often. It's $99 and sounds as good as any $300 classical you can pull off the wall at Guitar Center.
As a matter of fact, it's easier to find a good quality nylon/classical than it is to find a good quality steel-stringed folk guitar or an electric.
Yamaha makes excellent quality acoustic guitars, but I don't think people realize it. I have the 2-year-old nylon but I also have a 35-year-old Yamaha steel string that has aged so well (minus nut problems that can be fixed professionally) that a lot of my friends borrow it to record because it sounds so mellow and balanced.


I thought I made it clear I knew very little about classicals. I guess not. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT CLASSICALS.

I would take blackmountain74's word for it. His "I'm trying not to be condescending post" while being condescending post brims with confidence. Seriously though, he probably is more credible than I am, because, and I don't know if I've mentioned it or not, but I know very little about classicals.

Sound is one thing on a guitar. A lot of things can affect the sound. The quality of the guitar, guitar strings, the guy playing the guitar... Well, I guess it's not a lot of things. But still, there are factors. I would go more with a combination of comfort/sound. It doesn't matter how great the sound of a guitar is, if you're not comfortable with it, you won't enjoy playing it. Some guitars (especially cheaper guitars) feel horrible. I'll give you an example, I once bought a Danelectro U10. I loved the way the guitar looked, everyone agreed it had a great sound, but the feel was horrible. I hated the feel of the guitar, so I never played it. It was probably the worst guitar I've ever played. I bought it without ever trying it out, because it was a great deal. I regretted that purchase.

As far as Yamaha goes. They do tend to be a pretty decent brand. They are kind of like the equate of musical instruments (and anything else they can get their hands on). You're not going to get anything great, but as long as you're just getting it to have fun with it, you should be fine.

I personally have never played a Yamaha that I liked, or would consider owning, no matter how cheap it was (well maybe if it was like 10 bucks) , and no, I don't own gibsons or martins. I don't own very expensive equipment at all. Nowadays, I do make sure that I try a guitar out first to make sure that I am comfortable with it before buying it. RandR, you should probably go and try it out. If it feels good enough, pick it up. 100 bucks is a great deal on a guitar.


No te awites, wey.


Anyway, just go to La Cachanilla and get yourself a "Paracho". Decent enough quality at an even lower price. It was my first guitar, and I stil have it.
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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 03:00 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

carnicerodegiles wrote:
Anyway, just go to La Cachanilla and get yourself a "Paracho". Decent enough quality at an even lower price. It was my first guitar, and I stil have it.


Even cheaper is to hit up one of the emo gigs in Calexico at a "rich" neighborhood and bully your way into a new set of instruments to start your own band.

Speaking of emo, anyone following the emo-bashing that's been happening in Mexicali?
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