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elchrist See-thru Afro
Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 7366 Location: Calecia.com
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:09 PM Post subject: |
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| Bloodstar1 wrote: | | How is this a victory? The cops are still without a person in a position of leadership. This is ridiculous. The council didn't agree with the City Manager's choice? Who was his choice? And let this forum respond to it. |
It's a victory for the people in the sense that Calexico ended up lowering the qualifications for police chief supposedly for one specific candidate.
Now with the city going back to the drawing board and getting themselves a headhunter, our town will benefit in the long run by potentially obtaining a larger pool of qualified candidates. Yes, it may cost the city some more money and time to ultimately find the right police chief, but at least it won't cost the city in terms of public safety.
The Calexico PD may not have one leader in place to make decisions right now, but one can only hope our police officers can unify themselves in the interim and move forward by building a stronger bond amongst each other.
I have no clue who the proposed new chief of police was, but this time around there has to have been a very valid reason why the city council made a u-turn with their decision. Even if it was solely based on the scrutiny they were receiving throughout the valley, specifically from the City of Imperial chief of police and us, Calexico will be better of with the right candidate. |
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elchrist See-thru Afro
Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 7366 Location: Calecia.com
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:18 PM Post subject: |
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I guess I assumed all along who the main candidate was.
From Adelante Valle (10/25/2007):
CALEXICO — El teniente de la policía de esta ciudad, Jim Neujahr, se perfi-la para ocupar la Jefatura del Departamento de Policía, en sustitución de Mario Sánchez.
Recientemente, un total de siete candidatos presen-taron sus solicitudes para ocupar el cargo, sin embargo, Mike Hacket retiró su candi-datura antes de las entrevis-tas.
Al final, Neujarh recibió 319 puntos, mientras el segundo lugar, Pompeyo Tabarez, alcanzó 291 unidades, de acuerdo a uno de los panelistas del proceso, quien pidió el anonimato.
Los otros candidatos fueron Joseph Arteaga de Los Angeles, Joe Nava, el jefe de la policía de Calipatria
Reggie Gómez y José Álvarez. Los candidatos fueron entrevistados por el oficial de la policía local, Isaías Santos; el comisionado de la policía, Manuel Ramos; el Presidente de la Cámara de Comercio, Earl Roberts; la ciudadana, Cinthya Tabarez; una hija de la despachadora de apellido Estrada; otra persona de apel-lido Albañez; y el Administrador de la ciudad, Ralph Vélez.
De acuerdo al informante, el mismo Vélez solicitó a Neujahr presentar su solicitud por segunda ocasión, luego de que el teniente desistiera de buscar la jefatura de policía.
Al final, según la fuente, Neujahr y Tabarez recibieron una puntuación muy cercana, pero los puntos de los can-didatos que quedaron en los últimos lugares fueron suma-dos a los dos punteros, para hacer la diferencia de casi 30 puntos.
“ Fue un proceso amaña-do”, dijo la fuente.
El entrevistado dijo no estar a favor de candidato alguno, sino de que se realice un proceso limpio y justo.
#1 Neujahr
#2 Tabarez
Was the bar lowered for all of these candidates? |
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Bloodstar1 Dishonorable Discharge
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 351 Location: Calecia Native
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:27 PM Post subject: |
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| Were Neujahr and Tabarez the only two considered, or were there more? |
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elchrist See-thru Afro
Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 7366 Location: Calecia.com
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:33 PM Post subject: |
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| Bloodstar1 wrote: | | Were Neujahr and Tabarez the only two considered, or were there more? |
Other candidates:
Joseph Arteaga (Los Angeles)
Joe Nava (Calipatria Chief of Police)
Reggie Gomez
Jose Alvarez
Mike Hacket (withdrew before interview process)
Interviewed by:
Isaias Santos (police officer)
Manuel Ramos (police commissioner)
Earl Roberts (president of Chamber of Commerce)
Cinthya Tabarez (citizen; any relation to Pompeyo Tabarez?)
(unknown) Estrada
(unknown) Albañez
Ralph Velez (city manager) |
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Bloodstar1 Dishonorable Discharge
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 351 Location: Calecia Native
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:47 PM Post subject: |
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| I'm curious on Grifon1's take on all of this. You out there G-Man? What is your opinion on the latest council decision? |
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Bloodstar1 Dishonorable Discharge
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 01:01 PM Post subject: |
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| I just noticed one of the applicants, Joe Nava is the chief for Calipatria. Why didn't they just hire him? He's already a chief. |
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elchrist See-thru Afro
Joined: 09 Oct 2002 Posts: 7366 Location: Calecia.com
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 01:19 PM Post subject: |
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| Bloodstar1 wrote: | | I just noticed one of the applicants, Joe Nava is the chief for Calipatria. Why didn't they just hire him? He's already a chief. |
I thought the same thing, although can you really compare Calipatria to Calexico? Calexico has 3-4 times the population and a lot more traffic and activity because of all the international travelers.
Not saying he couldn't handle the job, but maybe they are looking for someone with experience policing a larger municipality.
What is the history with Lt. Neujahr? Why wouldn't they just hire him as the successor? |
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AikiMike Cholo Nako
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Oceanside, California
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 01:56 PM Post subject: |
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There is a misunderstanding here. Reggie Gomez (former Calexico Police Sergeant) is the current Chief of Police in Calipatria. Joe Nava is a renowned narcotics expert and is a retired Sergeant of the Imperial County Sheriff's Office (and a former Calexico Police Officer).
Hackett withdrew before the interviews as he had a prior commitment that had been set before the interview dates and was unable to change it. The interview dates were set in stone in a letter to all of the candidates and he didn't request an alternative date as the date was set and any accomodation would have been viewed as tainting the process.
This new process will probably open the candidate pool, but its very likely that some very qualified candidates from outside the Valley will rise to the top. Maybe they'll be better qualified than local candidates and perhaps they won't, but that will raise the question of "outsiders" coming to the Valley for a promotion. Not good, not bad, just another old issue of contention. I hope they get a great person to lead the Department! |
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Gryphon1 Moved to SD
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 156 Location: El Centro
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 02:19 PM Post subject: |
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All I can professionally say is that its a mess as usual.
politics obviously are being played here, and its acceptable to the people of Calexico, which really drives me nuts.
All men want is decent, honest, standardized leadership by those who are qualified to do the job. Those who know the Job.. This is not an easy thing being a Chief, but you cannot be all things to all people, and thats the problem we've had. Promises by those really in charge (council) who will fix things thru the department. All that does is undermine the resolve of officers and erode public trust.
We wouldn't have that with the current front runners. If the council decides to go outside and have a firm hire the chief with the written qualifications in the job description, none of the canidates the council is bidding on would be there. Another catch 22 Calexico.
Do you want honest leadership, or another puppet to take care of the wishes of council members and politicos in the city? Isn't the law equal for all? Is justice not blind but balanced? Not in Calexico, and the sad part is,...we all Know it and unfortunatley accept it.
2 of the council persons don't want to vote because they are afraid to rock the boat on their re election coming up in march, I'm so glad they all ran on how they wanted to make public safety their primary concern.
Where is the "promised, needed, deserved" public safety parity raise? delayed almost 5 months now, I forsee another lawsuit with the city, way to go council, public safety first!
At this rate, and with these front runner canidates who can be sure whats been promised to whom?
I don't want a chief. and apparently we dont need one.
Thats my 2 cents.
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elchrist See-thru Afro
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Posted: 21 Nov 2007 02:28 PM Post subject: |
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| Gryphon1 wrote: | All I can professionally say is that its a mess as usual.
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So would Neujahr have been the right choice as chief?
I was under the assumption Tabarez was the front runner all along and word was he wasn't quite qualified, thus why the bar was lowered.
Doesn't matter anymore, I guess. This time there will be a completely different group of candidates according to the catch 22 you're stating. |
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