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Who's the real Man: Golden Boy vs. Pretty Boy
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PostPosted: 02 May 2007 01:51 PM    Post subject: Who's the real Man: Golden Boy vs. Pretty Boy Reply with quote

There has been enough hype about this Saturday's showdown between Golden Boy vs. Pretty Boy. HBO 24/7, press conferences all over the country, primetime spotlight boxing fight.

Who do you pick to win this fight?

Happy Cinco de Mayo weekend!
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PostPosted: 02 May 2007 01:53 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

honestly, i think Pretty Boy can outbox Golden Boy, if he fights a complete smart fight. I want to see De La Hoya prove me wrong and knock this shit talker out.

Mosley did it to Oscar two times, speed kills.

Mayweather by decision.
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PostPosted: 02 May 2007 05:39 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02 May 2007 07:04 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLH FTW!
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 12:01 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

De La Hoya has the advantage of having fought against the best fighters in the world, while Mayweather hasn't fought shit, but Castillo and he lost the first fight. The disadvantage De La Hoya has is that he hasn't had much activity the last 2-3 years. But I'm sure that he has trained like never for this fight, and having Shane Mosley as a sparring partner will definitely help. I pray for a knockout so that Mayweather could shut his mouth, but a decision will do.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 04:09 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

And we're done. De La Hoya is the only boxer who matters anymore. As with any other superstar athlete, Oscar generates a wide range of opinions -- he's a classy dude, he's never beaten anyone great in his prime, he's full of himself, he's a warrior, he's overrated, he has a gravity-defying noggin that looks like Sputnik -- but at least people have opinions about him. You can't say the same for Mayweather, the best pound-for-pound fighter alive but also someone who could show up on "Lost" as one of the Others and go unrecognized by viewers and everyone else on the island. We need Floyd's brilliance to push the fight to another level, but Oscar's star power makes it relevant in the first place.

So why does boxing have to go away? Sure, it's a completely corrupt sport that lacks any semblance of organization, but that's been the case since, well, forever. The bigger issue? Lack of star power. American kids don't grow up hoping to become the next Ali or Sugar Ray anymore; they're hoping to be the next LeBron, Griffey, Brady or Tiger. The thought of getting smacked in the head for 20 years, soaked by the Don Kings of the world, then ending up with slurred speech and a constant tremor doesn't sound too enticing. Fifty years ago, before anyone knew better, Allen Iverson might have been the deadliest middleweight alive and ended up broke and incoherent. In 2007, he's worth tens of millions and there's a chance he'll be able to hold an articulate conversation when he's 70.

Which scenario sounds more appealing to an inner-city kid with serious athletic chops? Take a guess. It's ironic that Muhammad Ali -- once upon a time our most popular athlete and a boxing ambassador -- damaged the credibility of the sport more than anyone else by turning into a quivering mess. Maybe he is a great man, maybe he had a great career, maybe he was the warrior of warriors, but nobody wants to end up like him. Even the sport's most talented boxer (Mayweather) started fighting only because of his father and uncle (two former boxers). Raised in a different family, he'd definitely be playing centerfield or point guard for a living.

Boxing could have staved off its decline, at least a little, with a UFC-like business plan that included a constant presence on one cable network, one loaded PPV card per month, one championship belt per division, better marketing and promotion, and a charismatic, accountable leader like Dana White. But it's a pipe dream, and we know it: Too many dirtbags make too much money feeding off the perpetual disorganization and lawlessness, so that's how things will stay. The sport resembles a broken-down mansion that seems as if it can be salvaged -- right until the housing inspector tells you about the water-damaged walls and termite-infested foundation rotted to the core.

We need to knock down the house and start over. And in the years following the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, as boxing crumbles from a lack of mainstream interest, we will. Until then, let's enjoy the Last Big Fight. Call your buddy with the big TV and tell him you're coming over on May 5.

Just like old times.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 06:50 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends which Oscar comes out to box. His last big fight against B.Hopkins he was totally outclassed because he had no business in that weight division.

As for this fight, I think things will come full circle for Oscar. I remember the last big fight of another champ, J.C. Chavez. Chavez last big fight (1st one) was against Oscar, and Oscar took it to him. Boxing just like most sports is cruel to the old. While Oscar is not old, in fact, the same age or younger than some of the poster on C.com, it is clear that his best days are behind him. As for the other loud mouth, he has all the talent in the world to win.

Oscar should lose, but it should be a good fight. There's nothing like boxing hype. Fight Night.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 07:07 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

sakurob wrote:
Lack of star power. American kids don't grow up hoping to become the next Ali or Sugar Ray anymore; they're hoping to be the next LeBron, Griffey, Brady or Tiger.


Since most of the best athletes are black they are the ones that drive sport entertainment. With that being said, black youth are not playing golf, hockey, or baseball. They only care about basketball, and football as a last resort. It’s about getting paid. The numbers for black athlete (non-latinos) in baseball have been declining. Black hockey players? Name a black golfer not named Eldric. Are there any black UFC fighters?

The thing with boxing is if there is a star like a Tyson, or Oscar then they can command 20 million per fight. No other sport will ever match that.

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Boxing could have staved off its decline, at least a little, with a UFC-like business plan that included a constant presence on one cable network, one loaded PPV card per month, one championship belt per division, better marketing and promotion, and a charismatic, accountable leader like Dana White. But it's a pipe dream, and we know it: Too many dirtbags make too much money feeding off the perpetual disorganization and lawlessness, so that's how things will stay. The sport resembles a broken-down mansion that seems as if it can be salvaged -- right until the housing inspector tells you about the water-damaged walls and termite-infested foundation rotted to the core.


So true.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 11:41 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

sakurob wrote:
So why does boxing have to go away? Sure, it's a completely corrupt sport that lacks any semblance of organization, but that's been the case since, well, forever. The bigger issue? Lack of star power. American kids don't grow up hoping to become the next Ali or Sugar Ray anymore; they're hoping to be the next LeBron, Griffey, Brady or Tiger. The thought of getting smacked in the head for 20 years, soaked by the Don Kings of the world, then ending up with slurred speech and a constant tremor doesn't sound too enticing. Fifty years ago, before anyone knew better, Allen Iverson might have been the deadliest middleweight alive and ended up broke and incoherent. In 2007, he's worth tens of millions and there's a chance he'll be able to hold an articulate conversation when he's 70.


Boxing is worldwide, not just USA. Boxers come from all four corners of the world and, with their background, they will jeopardize some blows to get money because opportunities are scarce in their native countries. A Latino kid in inner-city USA doesnt see any Latinos in the NBA, so he choses baseball where Latinos are present. Same with boxing, Latinos dominate the lower weight classes, so youngters who grow up in tough neighborhoods chose boxing as a way to get out of the ghetto or barrio and make some money with what they do best, that is throw chingazos. So your analogy of Iverson doesnt fit well in this context.
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PostPosted: 03 May 2007 12:54 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLH is going to be taking this fight. You can't compare this to DLH vs. CHAVEZ because chavez' only game was to come right at you.

The main reason I feel that DLH is going to win is because mayweather wants to win this fight to secure his legacy. Does he really think he will secure his legacy by making this fight as dull as the Baldomir fight? He is going to try and make this an action fight up close and that's not his type of fight it's DLH
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