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locoinclx
The Door Rehab
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 Posted: 24 Oct 2006 09:25 AM Post subject: |
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| I have no idea why the quote thing didnt work... sorry guys, i checked and it was fine before posting it... |
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Cole
Joined: 24 Oct 2002
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Location: C-Town
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| Posted: 24 Oct 2006 05:04 PM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | In your ongoing bickering over the issue,
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| locoinclx wrote: | | Calexico, as the on growing metropolis that it is, continues to lack one essential aspect that most companies, cities and anyone that wants to succeed would take for granted. This is the will to take risk. |
They took a risk on the Hospital and we all know how that planned out. 10 years in the hole. Incompetence. At least for this midsize town some of the best venture moves are the ones not done. Think of a gambler. He takes risk every week he goes to Caliente. But after a bad streak, the best bet is the one not taken. At least you break even. Of course, this isn’t the model for success, but sometimes you do have to baby step it through.
| locoinclx wrote: | Then why don’t you think that the analogy of In N’ Out was a bad one?
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Simple. They choose us, we don’t choose them. San Diego for all its purchasing power only has two In N Out locations (Mission Valley, and National City). If you have been to either location they are always packed. Great business, but SD only has two locations because In N out dictates how many they want to have there. SD doesn’t get to pick. Indio and Aguascaliente have one, but because they chose the locals and not the other way around. Vegas for all its glory only has one that I know and it took years for them to finally get one.
| locoinclx wrote: | What does it matter that the In N’ Out corporation doesn’t franchise…
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Because the city can lobby all it wants, but in the end if In N Out doesn’t want to come, then they won’t. No business man can fork over the cash to franchise an In N Out because they won’t let it. How do you pitch the idea to In N Out that if you come, we guarantee great sales because Calexico, the Valley, and Mexicali will have people lined up out the door, when they know any where they go they will get the people.
| locoinclx wrote: | The reason why is because if Calexican’s do not get on the ball then they will loose potential businesses to the cities that are on the ball like El Centro, Imperial and even Brawley.
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I’ve never sat in a corporate room before, so I can’t say what goes through their market analysis when they decide to be lured into a Valley city, but here are a couple things that a Fortune 500 see when they Calexico. High unemployment, 35,000-40,000 citizens, uneducated, 90+ % Mexican, x median household, and so forth. Not very attractive. What is attractive is Mexicali. Potential sales, but they are Mexicans, that might not be to thrilled with all their American styles, products, and high prices.
| locoinclx wrote: | Please stop generalizing that calexican’s do not cross the border anymore to go buy groceries and such.
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Some do, but most don’t. Sorry, but I don’t play “100 calecianos dijieron” to know the exact facts on how many people do or don’t shop in Mexicali. Still, it can be inferred that most people do not shop in Mexicali for all their groceries. Yes, some people may buy an item or two, but not their entire grocery list. How do I infer this? First, why would Mexicali residents wait an hour in line to do their grocery shopping in Calexico? (Better quality and cheaper). Second, why do they keep opening more Sol Markets/grocery markets? (There’s a demand). So again how did I generalize?
| locoinclx wrote: | As for the housing issue, well even if foreclosures happen, there are still building more houses so where are all the people coming from… and think about it…
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I thought you had all the facts. I told you many are coming from out of town. Meaning they can be Valley residents, but most likely LA/SD/AZ residents. Here’s a shocker, many of these new home buyers are from Mexicali. First, they are coming over to avoid the crime and kidnappings. Second, it is cheaper to buy a property over here than in San Marcos and so forth. Third, they are the ones who are raising the prices.
| locoinclx wrote: | The mortgage companies would not give you a house that cost 400k if they knew (which they do) that you can only afford a 55k house.
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You missed the point. Back in the 80’s people could barely afford getting into a 55k home because interest rates were high and people had low-paying jobs. Today, people are getting into these interest only loans for 400k with practically the same jobs. Big problem. You sound like you own a home. You should know what I’m talking about. |
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Cole
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| Posted: 24 Oct 2006 05:14 PM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | | Corporate America is not that stupid. |
No, they are not, but there is one company out there that takes some huge risks every day. After someone has been turned down by their bank, di-tech, and other big name lending entities, who do they turned to as last resort? Country-wide. They take some shaky people.
| locoinclx wrote: | | How many times have you gone to Yuma, if you gone to Yuma at all and seen people you know from Calexico at the same stores that your shopping in? |
Less than 4 times. I remember when I was a little kid we went to Pic-n-Save only to find out that it was just the same store as any other. They had the same comparable prices as other competitive stores. Well, didn’t the city lure in Big Lots? Nothing spectacular. I’ve been in there 1-2 times and have not bought a single thing.
| locoinclx wrote: | | Why isn’t it that the City or the Chamber for that matter tries to persuade businesses like Marshals or Ross to come to the city if they know that those businesses would boom in a city like Calexico? |
So you’re saying (generalizing) that Calecianos would eat up a Marshalls or Ross? Aren’t you low-balling Calecianos purchasing power? For someone who argues that Calexico and Calecianos are ready to take that next step, aren’t you undermining your whole point by stating that a Marshalls or Ross would hit?
I’ve been to a Marshalls once and twice to a Ross. I can honestly say I’ve spent less than 10 minutes in all three store (combine) with nothing ever bought.
So why is it you can generalize but others can’t?
| locoinclx wrote: | | Therefore these stores are going to end up setting shop in El Centro or Imperial, where those cities are doing exactly that… luring businesses into their communities. |
Buddy system. What do you protect/encourage? Big business or local business? Capitalism, baby, capitalism.
| locoinclx wrote: | | This is where it gets personal... |
| locoinclx wrote: | | Therefore I am not the only one that feels that Calexico is moving backwards. |
This is based on your perception on what you want Calexico to be, but not necessarily what Calecianos want. You assume that most people want variety, stores, and more stores, but of course with more stores means more problems. Like Biggie said, mo money, mo problems. Calecianos hate the on going congestion on the streets. Calecianos can’t stand chicalones, especially those who drive like jackasses. But now no you assume that Calecianos want more. Without any data from surveys, it will be hard to know what Calexicianos really want.
| locoinclx wrote: | | I know more about Calexico that most of the people who live there, what’s going on, that’s being built and so on. Therefore I take some time to write these in these threads so that the people who actually live there can my perspective. |
That’s an arrogant statement, but if you need a medal it can be arranged.
| locoinclx wrote: | | Do I see Calexico going back to the Stone Age?? Well, when I left Calexico, there was a movie theater? What’s going to happen to that? How come no one saw the imminent closing of the movie theater coming? |
Is it the cities job to prevent business from failing? Are you saying that the city should subsidize the Movie theaters? Let’s increase taxes to keep a worn down business were the owner did the bare minimum to make a buck. Solid logic.
| locoinclx wrote: | | There hasn’t been a new school in Calexico for the past 15 years… You would attend the School board meetings. |
If you ever attended one you would know that you would just be wasting your time. What the School Board needs to do is to fire everyone working at the School District and fire themselves. Start fresh. That’s how incompetent they are. Some are good, but most of them have not earned their paychecks in years.
| locoinclx wrote: | | Yes we are taking steps back… no question about it. |
Before you can make that assertion, get some data on that. Ask people, what do you really want the city to have. Remember, a lot of people opposed the idea about having a Casino near by. To me the Casino, is a right the move, but too many it’s the second coming of the anti-elchrist. |
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locoinclx
The Door Rehab
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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| Posted: 24 Oct 2006 06:32 PM Post subject: |
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I like how verbal goes back and analyzes every single sentence that I write... I am deeply flattered verbal... Thank you… you make me more credible…. But there’s something that you missed…. EVERYONE HAS MOVED ON!!!! Everyone in Calexico knows that the city has gone backwards… So how can we improve the city? Apparently in your eyes, Calexico should stay the way it is and continue to go backwards… ahh!!! I pity your ideas. Thanks again for your insight of every single sentence that I wrote… pretty enlightening.  |
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