No human being is illegal

ClaudiaStar · Posted: 28 Mar 2006 12:00 PM Post subject:

"Ask a field worker who breaks a back to get you a cheap lettuce at your local grocery store, ask one of them who works or not. It comes down to the "gringo" not wanting to do the dirty work, who else will?"

Look, i'm not blind. I know that people work long hours under the sun and that takes a lot. I do not believe that rethoric that "Mexicans take jobs American won't do" and I could debate the for hours. Its offensive to hear that from politicians here in the U.S.A. Americans will do the farm work, Americans will work on hotels, Americans will work low wages. This country was shaped with the hands of immigrants that worked hard and worked many difficult jobs and made this country what it is today. It was ambitious Americans who worked hard to provide food to their families. It was all good until the hippie generation kicked in and made this country lazy. That wil change.

Another point I want to make is that from the most part illegal aliens do not contribute to society. They want to stay on their safe jobs with their safe checks for a very long time. For example, my first job was at the Burger King in El Centro and I met this guy who----up until this day-----works at the Burger king. He is an illegal. My point is proven here that this gentlemen is working there instead of going to school, making his own business, or do something to move up. Illegals like him do not contribute to society because if this gentlemen has not gone to school his life would be better. If you study and get a degree you will benefit yourself and the community in general because you have an education. Instead most of illegals stay in the bottom and they conform to their little salary, lousy job, and rent their single room. I know that are many success stories but its a painful truth that most illegals don't pursue the American Dream.

What they must do is to become a citiezen, go to community college, get a job, do your business, and be their own boss. They must work hard to OWN their lives, OWN their time, OWN their car, OWN their house. Most illegals stay at the bottom to eat dirt all their lives and wait until big government comes and help them. Guess what? government will never come.

Mexico is a corrupt country. The more corruption the country is the more need for masters the people will want to have. That's the main problem. Maybe we should send a clear message for those who want to come here that government will not help them and that they need to to work many years to OWN their lives, OWN their money, and OWN their piece of the American Dream.

Mars · Posted: 28 Mar 2006 12:33 PM Post subject:

Man we should hook this chick up with Radiodude.

Any how that is the most ridiculus argument, if we can call it one, that I have ever read, barring some of radiodudes of course.

How does this BK worker not help society by serving up hungry people their tasty whoppers during lunch.

Going to school and getting your OWN business sounds like a personal dreams that you should not impose on others.

Education is there for those who want it, why would you want a bunch of disgruntled students going to college it will be just like High School, some people just hate school.
Finally, how the hell do you know that this BK guy or some one in a similar position isn't sending his child to harvard?

ClaudiaStar · Posted: 28 Mar 2006 12:59 PM Post subject:

Mars,

I know this guy's family. They are good people and I like them but they have the "Government- Help- me- please" mentality. All I can say is that I have the best argument so far and non of you have given me a valid counter-argument.

C'mon guys, I dare you to be more intelligent.

elchrist · Posted: 28 Mar 2006 01:51 PM Post subject:

Encanto · Posted: 28 Mar 2006 05:00 PM Post subject:

"Its offensive to hear that from politicians here in the U.S.A. Americans will do the farm work, Americans will work on hotels, Americans will work low wages"

"Reform must begin by confronting a basic fact of life and economics: some of the jobs being generated in America's growing economy are jobs American citizens are not filling. Yet these jobs represent a tremendous opportunity for workers from abroad who want to work and fulfill their duties as a husband or a wife, a son or a daughter." -Dubya Bush

Do "Americans" really want to fill them jobs or is Dubya wrong?

Mars · Posted: 29 Mar 2006 08:11 AM Post subject:

chuco boy · Posted: 29 Mar 2006 08:50 AM Post subject: Aztlan Nation

Nobody is illegal. The US is just another conquered country by some white dudes who are proficient in land deeds, writing laws and fighting with guns. Ask the American Indians about illegal aliens..Yep after slaughtering the Indians and or putting them on reservations; bringing African citizens against their will- forcibly in chains. The history books called it slavery.Later entering Mexico illegally to conquer land.

Who's calling who illegal?

In ten years- all of SoCal will be Mexican-Mestizo anyways. I can't tell the difference between a Mexican born in El Centro or a Mexican born in Hermosillo.

I'm still trying to understand the Burger King story....

elchrist · Posted: 29 Mar 2006 10:25 AM Post subject:

About 100 Brawley High School students skipped class on Tuesday to march down Highway 86 towards Imperial in what was supposed to be a protest against H.R. 4437.

They never made it to Imperial.

Imperial Valley Students Protest Immigration Policy
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12058137/

elchrist · Posted: 29 Mar 2006 01:17 PM Post subject:

verbal · Posted: 29 Mar 2006 07:08 PM Post subject: