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chuco boy
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PostPosted: 12 Aug 2006 07:01 PM    Post subject: Policia Reply with quote

Hey Gryphon1...question....

The Adelante does a good job on covering Calexico criminals and local drug raids. It seems that these criminals have nine lives.


I read in the IV Press last week that the city is not going to fund the new squad cars- your budget was cut. How old and or conditon on the current fleet? Is this a public danger if the current patrol cars have high mileage?
I want you guys to have dependable vehicles. Why do police need Crown Victorias?
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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006 06:30 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in charge of the fleet of vehicles, but they are pretty high mileage, most of the patrol vehicles go between 65 to 75 thousand miles on them. The problem is some cars are running 24/7 due to other vehicles needing repairs.

The interiors are shot in the cars, I couldn't even get my passenger window up the other night as the control panel isn't properly connected to the door. The real scary thing is my power steering has been spotty off and on,(Yes its been reported to the admin) I replaced the fluids, but that isn't it. Its the pump. So when I am getting up to 70,80, or higher in a chase, it could continue to just bug out. (liability issue you bet) much less worrying about a wreck,and backing up is a joy without P/S

The budget got cut huh? Well, I can tell you that the money the PD makes on grants for things like traffic enforcement (overtime) the citations when they are paid by the citizens goes to the citys general fund, not to the PD. I don't agree with that, but that is the way the city is run.

You really don't want to think of cops writing tickets so that they get the money for equipment now do you ? I also would like to see how much money is collected from asset forefiture by the narcotics officers, and where that money is spent. because alot of money comes in, and I know for a fact that alot more is coming in soon. That money is legally only for equipping and training officers. Where is it? ask your councilmen:(
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PostPosted: 14 Aug 2006 09:08 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gryphon1 wrote:
I'm not in charge of the fleet of vehicles, but they are pretty high mileage, most of the patrol vehicles go between 65 to 75 thousand miles on them. The problem is some cars are running 24/7 due to other vehicles needing repairs.


When the city purchases new patrol cars, do they get a discount or are they paying MSRP?

I know they buy them from Robinson's Ford, since they don't seem to take off the paper (advertisement) plates off the vehicles for quite some time.

Does Ford have an exclusive deal with law enforcement? I'd recommend the CPD looking into buying more reliable cars from overseas. Although the Charger Police looks pretty cool.
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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2006 09:49 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gryphon1 wrote:
The problem is some cars are running 24/7 due to other vehicles needing repairs.


Could the problem be your driving? Responding to a call or chasing someone are valid reason to drive like there's no tomorrow, but when you don't follow any driving rule in the book how to you expect to keep cars running in tip-top shape?

Gryphon1 wrote:
So when I am getting up to 70,80, or higher in a chase, it could continue to just bug out. (liability issue you bet) much less worrying about a wreck,and backing up is a joy without P/S


A law enforcements wet dream. I hate my job, so I can't wait to get some sort of workers comp. Hey, do you know a good psychologist/doctor?

Gryphon1 wrote:
Well, I can tell you that the money the PD makes on grants for things like traffic enforcement (overtime) the citations when they are paid by the citizens goes to the citys general fund, not to the PD. I don't agree with that, but that is the way the city is run.


Stick to enforcing the laws and let those who are trained to write the legislation (this post is in no way giving any props to Calexico's politicians).
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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2006 12:40 PM    Post subject: Re: Bad Boys! Bad Boys! Reply with quote

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I can't go a single day without seeing at least 3 cops in this town not doing their jobs. They are either at some girl's (not women) house hitting on them, or at St. Tomas shopping, or hanging out with some dude's they may know.

I'm tired of it. These guys have some ego's (I don't know why?) on them too and they are always staring at you no matter who you are, expecting you to get intimidated or something.

This topic is being formed with the intention of getting complaints about the Calexico P.D. or any other P.D. in the Valley that need's to make changes, so if you have any legitimate complaints, post them, and we'll compose a letter to the mayor, newspaper, whoever. Just as long as some changes are made, and these guys start doing their jobs.

Thanks.


Lot of angry people out there venting their discontent at the police department. In many cases, rightfully so. The police department has a long history of good cops and bad cops. Unfortunately it's the bad cops who mess it up for the good cops, making the job of the good cops that much harder. The bad cops reputation spreads like a wild fire throughout the community and the next thing one knows….the department is corrupt.

The next time a citizen has been wronged by a police officer, that person should complain to the officer’s supervisor. Not satisfied? Document the supervisor’s name, the date and time you contacted him ( or her ) and ask for a complaint form. They are suppose to have these forms ready for their citizens. Fill out the form with detail. Things like, dates, times, location, nature of the officer’s wrong doing, name of any possible witnesses. It is the department’s policy to investigate all complaints. File the complaint with the city and keep a copy for yourself. Make sure you get the name of the person who accepted the complaint.

Once the complaint is investigated, the department is suppose to advise you if the complaint is sustained or not sustained. As for any disciplinary action taken against the officer, that is considered a personnel matter and can not be discussed. If they tell you, more power to you.

Why file a complaint? In it’s simplest form, it’s like kind of like traffic enforcement. One gets use to running stops signs, gets pulled over, is issued a citation, goes to court, pays a fine and is further punished by their insurance company by raising their insurance rates. Will this person repeat this kind of offense? Same thing with the cop. But with a catch. The complaint is recorded in the officer’s record for a certain amount of time. This means that if he wrongs another citizen and that citizen didn’t drop the ball by not filing a citizen’s complaint, that officer just got himself deeper into his own mess. The likelihood of this officer being terminated has just greatly increased.

Citizens of Calexico have more power than they know.
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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2006 04:30 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. C.com has an adobe, html, or any other printable ready complaint form for any citizen or non-citizen to use.

2. The city of Calexico offers a list of all police officers names, badge numbers, and years of experience. This includes supervisors.
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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2006 10:40 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-1 is back? Good job on catching that auto theif.

Questions for G-1, (or anyone): How many auto thefts did Calecia have last year and so far how many this year?

Lately, it has been in the Press about cities with only one cop on the job and having problems holding on to them. Does Calecia PD have any opeinings and why is it hard to keep the cops on? Sounds like a job with some security to it.
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PostPosted: 22 Aug 2006 11:53 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I am back, and I am not sure of last years statistics, but I do remmeber the numbers from a few years back, (Can't believe it has changed that much) Calexico had something like 400 auto thefts reported. The majority of them all within a three block radius of St. Tomas swap meet area. That would equal out to more than one a day. Most are not "Actually" stolen. There is a large amount of insurance fraud prevelant in these cases.

Criminally, the cars are not being resold, they are being "chopped" because you can sell the replacement parts to vehicles at a greater profit. There was supposed to be a grant for this type of enforcement, and a unit was supposed to be started and thyre mission was to combat auto theft here in the valley. (where is it and where did the money go?) same questions as always.

Calexico Police also spend their time taking "courtesey" reports for Calexico residents who have their vehicles stolen in Mexicali , or they did. I believe it is still policy. So we are busy filling out paperwork on a crime in another country, that we can in no way enforce. Only in Calexico.Exclamation
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PostPosted: 22 Aug 2006 12:04 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the recruitment and retention problems of the valley and in particular Calexico PD, well, alot of that starts right at the top. There is no money to recruit and train a local cop to go through six months of academy and another four months of basic field training. So we get guys from L.A. whom have been cut from other departments or have no experience and they are fresh from the academy.

So when they are here and gaining experience and training which now makes tyhem marketable, they go home to their families and much higher paying jobs. There is nothing here to unless you are from here.

Calexico PD is 75 percent out of towners. You have very few officers who are locals, and are staying on to make it as a career in Calexico. So there is always an opening at Calexico. What I love about the administration now is, even if you left under the best circumstances, and wanted to come back because it wasn't working out for you at wherever it was you wanted to go to, you can't come back, and when we have officers here that should clearly not be police officers, they have been swayed to be drones for the administration now that they have sold their souls to the admin, so they wouldn't get fired over some of their idiot antics.

It is a really Fu@#$d system. I am no angel, I have had my scrapes with the admin, but I haven't done half of the crap these other guys have pulled. I would have fired them. period.But thats just my personal and professional opinion! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 29 Sep 2006 09:05 PM    Post subject: Calexico Police Reply with quote

Have you guys noticed that some of these cops can hardly speak english? How can the city hire these people whose english sucks?? It's a shame they represent us.....what will people who are not from the city think when they hear a police officers english sound like spanish ?? Hell what do the citizens of Calexico think ?

When you want to file a complaint do it in writing.......Ask for a complaint form at the police station, complete it and get yourself a copy. Make sure you get a signature of the employee who receives it, that way it doesn't "get lost".
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