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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2005 10:32 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

bemisnorris wrote:
You have to admit that people in the Valley don't tip very well either...which in turn, leads to shitty service...which in turn, leads to shitty tips...etc.


F tipping. That should have nothing to do with it. It should be about doing your job well, whatever it is.

You've got two different kinds of servers here: (1) Those that never expect a tip, so they just do their job; (2) Those that get their tipping rights straight from god, usually horrible service.

Example?

Disfrutalow. Tips appreciated; not expected. Excellent Service.

Burgers & Beer. Tips expected... (revision) Big Tips expected. Horrible Service.

Some people here expect an automatic tip for their bad service. They'll get a tip over my foot.
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PostPosted: 11 Apr 2005 06:39 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

spic-ole wrote:
bemisnorris wrote:
You have to admit that people in the Valley don't tip very well either...which in turn, leads to shitty service...which in turn, leads to shitty tips...etc.


F tipping. That should have nothing to do with it. It should be about doing your job well, whatever it is.

You've got two different kinds of servers here: (1) Those that never expect a tip, so they just do their job; (2) Those that get their tipping rights straight from god, usually horrible service.

Some people here expect an automatic tip for their bad service. They'll get a tip over my foot.


All servers expect a tip...they have to, because they are taxed for tips regardless of whether you give them tips or not.
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PostPosted: 11 Apr 2005 03:20 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give waitresses a tip, the tip of my di..
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PostPosted: 11 Apr 2005 08:02 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

bemisnorris wrote:
All servers expect a tip...they have to, because they are taxed for tips regardless of whether you give them tips or not.


Yeah, all customers expect good service, we all get charged for our meal.
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2005 01:39 PM    Post subject: Los Vagones Reply with quote

I ended up going to Los Vagones last Friday night. I didn't pick the spot, but was curious to check it out anyway since the place looks pretty cool from the outside with its four cornerstone train cars.

We were a large group, so I wasn't about to gripe about the delayed service. I was in fact very disappointed with my food. The food was horrible. I order some enchiladas because it's a real simple meal, yet it was so bland and lacked substance. I overheard someone in our group say that their hamburger patty stunk. WTF?

Anyway, apparently if you get off your seat and hit the bar area the waiter will follow you and ask if you're splitting. Makes sense, I suppose, but I did decide to leave and cancelled my drink order after that.

My bill wasn't too much, yet they felt the need auto-include the tip at 10%.

Too bad the food here blows because the atmosphere is actually pretty cool. One of the best in Mexicali, I think. There's even a band with a girl singer who sounded just like Shakira when they covered one of her songs.

Oh, and they also broke into someone's car inside of the small parking lot with the security guard on duty. Are there banditos at this place too?
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PostPosted: 14 Apr 2005 11:20 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without a doubt the small ghetto shacks are the best places. I don’t know if anyone has been to Cenaduria Chayos on calle 3ra, it has the best pozole, and tacos dorados, the negative is that they remolded a couple of years back and now it’s trying to be high class Cenaduria. I guess they want to imitate Cenaduria Selecta, which I think is over priced.

Now days when you go to mex everyone wants a tip. You go eat tip the waiter, the person in the restroom giving mints then charging for them, the six year old kid taking care of your car, the 40 yr old that claims he washed it, the guy that jumped on your windshield to give it a clean, and finally the people at the linea. I have respect for someone trying to get some cash for food but I think some of these people can get a real job.
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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2005 04:42 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baloo wrote:
Cenaduria Selecta, which I think is over priced.


I have never been there but I guess apart from being over pirced, I heard the food sucked.
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PostPosted: 16 Apr 2005 05:07 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I go generalizing things again, but here's my perspective. There is no real incentive to have great service in Mexico. Everyone wants to make a buck, but to what extent? Wages are pathetic in Mexico, and tips are minisculed at that. Plus, business do not have to worry about liability at all. If someone slips, so what. If you find a cockroach in your Coke, hey, you got a prize. It is the whole 'por pendejo or pa' que te dejas' mentality.

Yes, there are some nice mom-and-pop establishments that one can encounter, but for the most part restuarant workers are indifferent towards you.

The same for any service in Mexico. In the States people are called associates when in reality they are a simple employees. The difference? Attitude and perception. Still, in doubt then catch Office Space.

Thus, by expecting stellar service in Mexico one is definately setting themselves for a great pitfall. Bitterness is something I do not look forward to.
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