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elchrist
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 Posted: 06 Apr 2005 01:16 PM Post subject: US to require passport for US-Mexico border crossing |
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US announces new travel requirements to tighten border
Source: AFP
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States announced it would tighten its borders by requiring US citizens, Canadians, Mexicans and Bermudans to show passports to enter this country.
The initiative, which will be phased in before 2008, is the latest effort to bolster security since the September 11, 2001 terror strikes, and was likely to raise protests from Canadians and other US neighbors.
Citizens of the United States and the other countries are not required to present a passport to enter this country when traveling within the Western Hemisphere.
Canadians, for example, currently cross the border simply by displaying a drivers license or birth certificate. They will eventually need a passport or "other accepted secured document."
The move to require passports, announced by the departments of Homeland Security and State, stems from the so-called Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last December.
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 06 Apr 2005 01:35 PM Post subject: |
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Why would more business be set to close???
the people who are us citizens can get a passport with their birth certificate or naturalization certificate, state id and 100 bucks... if your not a citizen well you already have a visa, so theres no problem with that... Personally i dont think that calexico will go to hell once they implement this, i truly believe the problem is going to be on the canadian side since they would have to get a canadian passport to enter the us... dont worry guys, its easy.. trust me i just got one a month ago and well there wherent any problems... thats if you have the 100 bucks..  |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 06 Apr 2005 02:03 PM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | Why would more business be set to close???
the people who are us citizens can get a passport with their birth certificate or naturalization certificate, state id and 100 bucks... if your not a citizen well you already have a visa, so theres no problem with that... |
Because from my understanding, Mexican citizens with visas will still need to acquire a Mexican passport to enter the United States. Although most that will need one will be able to afford one, but I'm sure that many will not.
Business that I already see as being hit the hardest are Las Palmas and Santo Tomas, Calexico Price Center and quite a few downtown shops.
Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I am.
| locoinclx wrote: | | Personally i dont think that calexico will go to hell once they implement this, i truly believe the problem is going to be on the canadian side since they would have to get a canadian passport to enter the us... dont worry guys, its easy.. trust me i just got one a month ago and well there wherent any problems... thats if you have the 100 bucks.. |
Is it already $100? I got mine for about $80 a couple years ago, plus the cost of the passport photo. I missed the ~$50 price by about a month. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 06 Apr 2005 02:08 PM Post subject: according to the article quoted... |
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Yes, the article that you added to your posting stated that:
"Although passports will be preferred, other documents might be acceptable to enter the United States, such as the Border Crossing Card that serves for Mexicans."
So yeah... i think most people that cant afford the passport on this side of the bother will have to succum to eating tacos at d'poly... but yes i agree.. it sux.. |
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451PC
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| Posted: 06 Apr 2005 08:22 PM Post subject: |
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| It is hard to understand what the real goal of the USCBP is, they can be dupped just as bad as any other document. I am in trouble the minute that I step into the port of entry, due to the way I look and dress, and I have a very respectable profession, I just like to dress like a thug sometimes. Maybe its a money making skeem, $100.00 here and there and next thing you know the government is rich. |
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chuco boy
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| Posted: 06 Apr 2005 09:20 PM Post subject: Passports= La Verdad |
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| Mexico tourism and businesses will suffer along with our local economy. Only 20% of US citizens have passports and the bureaucracy in Mexico is horrible. The border is interchangeable and many local residents go back and forth. The lines will be longer and unfortunately low-income people will suffer. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 07 Apr 2005 08:31 AM Post subject: |
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guys, everyone that can already crosses the border from the mexican side will still be able to with the paperwork they already have... all the resdent aliens will also be able to cross the boder because they already have their resident alien card.. the thing is that if you are a citizen then your going to have to get a passport...
a lot of the times ive know that people have stated that they are us citizens when they cross and well they get in because the custom guys dont ask for id's... and well frankly that scares me and upsets me.. i think mexican visas cost you around 50 bucks to get and lazer visas are 100 bucks or something... resident alien card is like 150...
mexico is another country and well you should need paperwork to cross the border from here to there and back... heck you need to do it with every other country so whats the problem...
they said that with 911 less people where going to come because there are two hour lines at the border and heck when ive made those two hour lines almost all the plates i see are from mexicali.. heck i even see plates from like durango and stuff..
i guess that me and my family have always done things the legal way.. my parents crossed the border untill they got all the paper work and well i was born here..they pay taxes, i pay taxes and one one from my family has ever asked for anything from the government... thats why i dont see this issue as a problem for any citizen in the us..
you know i was all against giving drivers licenses to undocumented workers because of terrorists and all that good stuff |
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superplayer
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| Posted: 07 Apr 2005 10:31 AM Post subject: |
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I am very pissed off; I had to order a passport last week because of a school trip and the US postal office charged $15 for the photos and the total for everything was about $113. I must have gone to the court in El Centro... For those of you that will have to get a US passport, avoid the post office.
| locoinclx wrote: | they said that with 911 less people where going to come because there are two hour lines at the border and heck when ive made those two hour lines almost all the plates i see are from mexicali.. heck i even see plates from like durango and stuff..
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I am sorry to disagree with that but the majority of vehicle crossings have lately been done by US residents, except the mornings of monday-saturday. Other than that, almost everytime I wait in lines is all about big SUVs and brand new cars or recent models with California plates, they crowd the lines almost every day especially weekends and evenings and the lines they cause have lately made me hate SUVs and stupid F150 trucks (and they say they never go to mex). Less and less I see baja yellow plates.
| locoinclx wrote: | you know i was all against giving drivers licenses to undocumented workers because of terrorists and all that good stuff
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The Mexicans and Saudis are different kinds of people. |
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locoinclx
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| Posted: 07 Apr 2005 10:48 AM Post subject: |
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| superplayer wrote: | | Less and less I see baja yellow plates. |
basically, mexicali plates are white and go on any given day and youll see mexican plates all over the place...
| superplayer wrote: | | The Mexicans and Saudis are different kinds of people. |
look at pictures of saudi's, iraqui's, kuwaiti's and all middle easterners and then look a pictures of mexicans and other south americans... and ask your self if they dont look alike... if that dosent convince you then when the movie jarhead comes out in december look at the people that supposedly are Iraqui's... half of those people are mexican... i should know, i worked for the extra's casting office...  |
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superplayer
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| Posted: 07 Apr 2005 01:28 PM Post subject: |
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| locoinclx wrote: | | basically, mexicali plates are white and go on any given day and youll see mexican plates all over the place... |
They used to be white/beige if the car was purchased new in Mex and they are called "Autos Nacionales" In Mexicali. "Fronterizos" (imported)used to be all yellow for a long time such that people in Calecia started to call them "los de las placas amarillas." No offense, really, but you seem not to live around here.
About the mexican/middle eastern people, I wasn't referring to their particualr looks, physical appearance, race, resemblance, or whatever is best to describe that. |
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