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superplayer
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| Mars wrote: |
so is this what you do, come to C.com and regurgitate other peoples ideas and pass them off as your own to try to impress us.
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Man why in this dirty town would I want to impress you ??? People keep arguing and challenging me SO I RESPOND TO THEM. I responded because this is suppossed to be a forum. Period. If I wanted to come to this forum or any other forum to impress the other members, I would be doing that in all threads putting down people.
I have not put down anyone, this is, or at least it appeared to me to be a forum so I post in the threads; members argue with me so I argue with them. Deal with that.
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Dude, have you ever heard of a summary? Well, that's exactly what that was. Jeez. If someone tells you the Sun is hot, trust me, its complex thermonuclear activities are duly implied.
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Yes it's a summary, so what? That still doesn't mean I was incorrect. Or if you or some other member says that I am incorrect, at least show me your proof. I can give proof of everything I said. Read some history books??? Man I am a double major at SDSU IV one of them is History. Yes, I know it's not the best education of the world, but fair enough to come with arguments such as these.
And... no I am not trying to impress any of you. (just in case)
You guys if some of you are immature or closed minded enough as to not stand a simple dsicussion without starting crying, simply say that you just want to play putting-down-each-other-for-fun. |
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Mars
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| Posted: 29 Jun 2004 08:20 PM Post subject: |
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Superplayer
You just don't get it 
One day young grasshopper, you shall learn what is truly important and not what is in your books. |
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revramrod
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Joined: 09 Oct 2002
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Location: Calecia.com
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| Posted: 29 Jun 2004 11:14 PM Post subject: |
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| superplayer wrote: | | Yes it's a summary, so what? That still doesn't mean I was incorrect. Or if you or some other member says that I am incorrect, at least show me your proof. I can give proof of everything I said. |
Slavery was not the cause of the Civil War, it was something to rally around. To insist that it was demonstrates a serious misunderstanding of an immensely complex event in American history.
If you want proof, then you're gonna have to do some research on your own. Items you might want to start with are: the double-standard of the Emancipation Proclamation. Why Northerners wanted the slaves freed (liberty, or cheap labor?) The Ordinance of Nullification and the Tariff of Abominations. Lincoln's stance on slavery; he wasn't even an abolitionist. Feel free to follow the tracks from there; those items are easy enough for anyone to dissect.
| superplayer wrote: | | Read some history books??? Man I am a double major at SDSU IV one of them is History. Yes, I know it's not the best education of the world, but fair enough to come with arguments such as these. |
Go back and read them again. |
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2004 07:46 AM Post subject: |
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| superplayer wrote: | | Mars wrote: |
so is this what you do, come to C.com and regurgitate other peoples ideas and pass them off as your own to try to impress us.
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Man why in this dirty town would I want to impress you ??? People keep arguing and challenging me SO I RESPOND TO THEM. |
Do you like apples?
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That still doesn't mean I was incorrect. Or if you or some other member says that I am incorrect, at least show me your proof. I can give proof of everything I said. |
Proof, please. What next your going to tell me, I mean argue with me on the 'fact' that we enter the Spanih-American War to free Cuba, or that Mexico lost the Alamo, or that Christopher Columbus was a great man. I can show you all the proof you want, but are those books worth reading. Are those facts correct?
| superplayer wrote: |
Read some history books??? Man I am a double major at SDSU IV one of them is History. Yes, I know it's not the best education of the world, but fair enough to come with arguments such as these.
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Can you get a refund?
| superplayer wrote: |
You guys if some of you are immature or closed minded enough as to not stand a simple dsicussion without starting crying, simply say that you just want to play putting-down-each-other-for-fun. |
Grow up. No one is putting you down and knowing the panel of experts here no one is crying either. The discussion is very simple, but your double-major mentality cannot allow you to comprehend that your argument is flawed. |
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Mars
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2004 09:23 AM Post subject: |
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| verbal wrote: | | No one is putting you down and knowing the panel of experts here no one is crying either. |
you're so insensitive 
Superplayer let me introduce you to a friend of mine meet:
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superplayer
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2004 05:01 PM Post subject: |
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nobody is putting me down??? Even a three year old would realize that. How lame it is to come to this attitude in an obscure thread that probably no more than 10 different people with enough free time would bother to read... 
So this is the end, because three forum friends that dominate the forum against another member is just obscene. [/b] |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2004 08:17 PM Post subject: |
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| superplayer wrote: | nobody is putting me down??? Even a three year old would realize that. How lame it is to come to this attitude in an obscure thread that probably no more than 10 different people with enough free time would bother to read...
So this is the end, because three forum friends that dominate the forum against another member is just obscene. [/b] |
What? You're leaving?
Will history repeat itself on Calecia.com? |
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hellsieduster
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| Posted: 30 Jun 2004 08:30 PM Post subject: |
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| what a bunch of nerds. over how the civil war began? hah. |
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Nuestra_Grotesca_Belleza
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| Posted: 05 Jan 2009 11:39 PM Post subject: Re: One Nation, Under God |
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| elchrist wrote: | "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Supreme Court Decides Pledge Case on Technicality
Source: Reuters
The ruling by the justices was based on the technicality that Newdow could not bring the case before the court because he did not have legal control over his daughter, on whose behalf he was arguing.
In the state of California, the law requires that the pledge of allegiance be recited every day in public elementary schools. With the students being underage and most like not capable of making all of their own decisions in society, should the words "under God" be required to be muttered by children, along with the rest of the pledge?
I'll admit, I was too young to even pay attention and/or care about the meaning of this pledge. Everyone had to stand up, place their hand over their heart and recite the words while facing the American flag. I never really had a second thought about it and I definitely never even cared about the words in it. I just felt as if I had to do it.
I personally think the words "under God" should be removed from the pledge of allegiance, currency and another other government issued products and services. Regardless of my religious belief (or lack of), religion should not be a part of the government and it definitely shouldn't be instilled in the everyday lives of children by them.
This is the parents' job.
What are your thoughts? |
I will vow to no one  "under myself" |
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RandR
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| Posted: 28 Jan 2009 07:13 PM Post subject: Re: One Nation, Under God |
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| elchrist wrote: |
In the state of California, the law requires that the pledge of allegiance be recited every day in public elementary schools. With the students being underage and most like not capable of making all of their own decisions in society, should the words "under God" be required to be muttered by children, along with the rest of the pledge?
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I personally think the words "under God" should be removed from the pledge of allegiance, currency and another other government issued products and services. Regardless of my religious belief (or lack of), religion should not be a part of the government and it definitely shouldn't be instilled in the everyday lives of children by them.
This is the parents' job.
What are your thoughts? |
Religion and government are an unholy union, to be sure. But if kids are too young to make their own decisions, then why should they be expected to pledge allegiance to the United States at all? The phrase "Under God" is a small part of what's wrong with the "Pledge of Allegiance" |
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