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elchrist
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 Posted: 10 Mar 2004 12:04 PM Post subject: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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For the past two consecutive weeks there have been two major traffic accidents which occurred on Highway 111 between Calexico and El Centro. Both traffic accidents resulted in a passenger car becoming nearly demolished by a semitrailer truck and some casualties.
What appears to be the semitrailers attempting to cross Highway 111, they are unsuccessful and vehicles, for whatever reason, are unable to completely halt and avoid a collision. For the the past two weeks this has happened.
Clearly something needs to be done about the highway and it's intersections. I, as well as hundreds of others, will risk their lives each day as they commute. Will I need to make it a habit to take the country roads and make my drive a lot longer just to be safe?
What realistic alternatives are there? How about an overpass on each high traffic intersection? Placing traffic lights at each intersection is not feasible, since it would cause all traffic on this expressway to come to a crawl. |
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| Posted: 10 Mar 2004 12:12 PM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| elchrist wrote: | For the past two consecutive weeks there have been two major traffic accidents which occurred on Highway 111 between Calexico and El Centro. Both traffic accidents resulted in a passenger car becoming nearly demolished by a semitrailer truck and some casualties.
What appears to be the semitrailers attempting to cross Highway 111, they are unsuccessful and vehicles, for whatever reason, are unable to completely halt and avoid a collision. For the the past two weeks this has happened.
Clearly something needs to be done about the highway and it's intersections. I, as well as hundreds of others, will risk their lives each day as they commute. Will I need to make it a habit to take the country roads and make my drive a lot longer just to be safe?
What realistic alternatives are there? How about an overpass on each high traffic intersection? Placing traffic lights at each intersection is not feasible, since it would cause all traffic on this expressway to come to a crawl. |
What about those assholes driving 100mph down 111. That would nearly impossible to stop on time to avoid an accident. If you are driving at the speed limit and a truck cuts acroos the intersection you should get a clear view of it from a few hundred yards back and should be able to stopon time. Unless the truck are entering the intersections in heavy traffic I think the car drivers need to be more responsible. |
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bemisnorris
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| Posted: 10 Mar 2004 12:36 PM Post subject: |
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| There is no such thing as a dangerous intersection (unless there are blindspots); it all comes down to driving safely and defensively. I think it's a safe bet that 99% of all car accidents are caused by driver incompetence. |
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| Posted: 10 Mar 2004 12:38 PM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| elchrist wrote: |
What realistic alternatives are there? How about an overpass on each high traffic intersection? Placing traffic lights at each intersection is not feasible, since it would cause all traffic on this expressway to come to a crawl. |
The way I see it every time you step on a road your viable to get killed. If I walk across my residential street I have some stupid rice rockets humming at 50-60 mph. I'm talking a regular size (length) residential street, but these fools think its necessary to show off their serious muscle and brake super hard just to make the stop sign. Then when you get in your car you can get hit by drunk driver, someone on a cell phone, or an old lady. Realistically, thousands of people get killed each day.
Again the government puts a value on people's life that is around 170k. If they feel that too many accidents are occuring on Highway 111, then they have a formula for how many lifes have been lost and how many potential lifes can face the same fate. By using this formula the government can decide whether to install guard rails around turns.
I believe placing a traffic light between Heber and Cole Road, I think its Casper/Jasper (?) road. I heard there has been a history of that intersection causing problems. As for traffic lights causing a complete stand still is a bit overboard. Anyway, those lights will be triggered to be set for a few seconds compared to those in the cities that can last from 1-2 minutes. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 10 Mar 2004 05:35 PM Post subject: |
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| bemisnorris wrote: | | There is no such thing as a dangerous intersection (unless there are blindspots); it all comes down to driving safely and defensively. I think it's a safe bet that 99% of all car accidents are caused by driver incompetence. |
No matter how good of a driver you are, you're always going to be surrounded by bad ones.
I'm very confident in my driving skills and have avoided numerous accidents due to my experience. Does this mean that I always have to be looking at each car making sure they don't strike me? Unfortunately the answer is yes.
We'll never get rid of bad drivers and they will continue to cause the majority of traffic accidents, but by building safer and better designed roads we can eliminate many of these incidents. |
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elchrist
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| Posted: 10 Mar 2004 05:46 PM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| verbal wrote: | | As for traffic lights causing a complete stand still is a bit overboard. Anyway, those lights will be triggered to be set for a few seconds compared to those in the cities that can last from 1-2 minutes. |
It just takes one car waiting to cross the highway to give you a red light. Everyone and their mother are on their way to work in El Centro or headed to school at IVC, not to mention that everybody is always in a hurry.
When most people see a yellow, soon to be turning red, light on Cole Road or Heber Road, what do they do? They gun it. I've done it many times and I'm sure you have too. No one wants to wait an extra minute or two for the light to turn green when they're in a "hurry." With the addition of one or two more intersection lights on 111 there is the potential for more accidents to occur.
An overpass or two is very unlikely since it is most likely much more expensive, but it would be the safest choice. A more inexpensive alternative might be to get the CHPs to actually patrol this highway during peak times. I can't recall the last time I saw one on the road while going to work. |
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| Posted: 11 Mar 2004 09:12 AM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| elchrist wrote: | No one wants to wait an extra minute or two for the light to turn green when they're in a "hurry." With the addition of one or two more intersection lights on 111 there is the potential for more accidents to occur.
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Again, if you value your life then you take off a bit earlier. This way you won't be in a hurry. There's nothing wrong with getting to work 5-10 minutes early if that's what it takes. If you know you have those additional minutes you can drive at a safer speed and concentrate a little more on the road.
I for one don't see the additional traffic lights having a negative effect. A little congestion is ok in my book if lives are going to be safed. The person who died last weekend was from here in Calexico and I knew his son. I bet his son would rather wait a little more to get to IVC that way when he comes home he could at least his father.
One of the most dangerous intersections in this great city is the Highway 111 and Cole Rd. This is for the simple fact that you have explain that when someone sees a yellow they gun it. Well, knowing this and being an experienced driver when the light turns green I wait a couple of seconds and proceed with caution. The last thing I want is to get him by a car that is traveling above 65 mph. The way I treat such intersections are the same way I treat every single intersection in Mexicali. Proceed with caution. |
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| Posted: 11 Mar 2004 09:39 AM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| verbal wrote: |
Again, if you value your life then you take off a bit earlier. This way you won't be in a hurry. There's nothing wrong with getting to work 5-10 minutes early if that's what it takes. If you know you have those additional minutes you can drive at a safer speed and concentrate a little more on the road.
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If we were capable of leaving to work on time we wouldn't be having this discussion. Fact is people never plan ahead and they wait to the last minute, myself included. Besides people don't speed because they're late they speed becasue they can. |
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chainsmokinmonkey
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| Posted: 12 Mar 2004 06:54 PM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| elchrist wrote: | For the past two consecutive weeks there have been two major traffic accidents which occurred on Highway 111 between Calexico and El Centro. Both traffic accidents resulted in a passenger car becoming nearly demolished by a semitrailer truck and some casualties.
What appears to be the semitrailers attempting to cross Highway 111, they are unsuccessful and vehicles, for whatever reason, are unable to completely halt and avoid a collision. For the the past two weeks this has happened.
Clearly something needs to be done about the highway and it's intersections. I, as well as hundreds of others, will risk their lives each day as they commute. Will I need to make it a habit to take the country roads and make my drive a lot longer just to be safe?
What realistic alternatives are there? How about an overpass on each high traffic intersection? Placing traffic lights at each intersection is not feasible, since it would cause all traffic on this expressway to come to a crawl. |
i also believe that the semi drivers like to intimidate the rest of the driving population |
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| Posted: 12 Mar 2004 10:22 PM Post subject: Re: Highway 111 Traffic Accidents |
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| chainsmokinmonkey wrote: | | elchrist wrote: | For the past two consecutive weeks there have been two major traffic accidents which occurred on Highway 111 between Calexico and El Centro. Both traffic accidents resulted in a passenger car becoming nearly demolished by a semitrailer truck and some casualties.
What appears to be the semitrailers attempting to cross Highway 111, they are unsuccessful and vehicles, for whatever reason, are unable to completely halt and avoid a collision. For the the past two weeks this has happened.
Clearly something needs to be done about the highway and it's intersections. I, as well as hundreds of others, will risk their lives each day as they commute. Will I need to make it a habit to take the country roads and make my drive a lot longer just to be safe?
What realistic alternatives are there? How about an overpass on each high traffic intersection? Placing traffic lights at each intersection is not feasible, since it would cause all traffic on this expressway to come to a crawl. |
i also believe that the semi drivers like to intimidate the rest of the driving population |
I disagree. They are more scared about you than you are of them. |
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